Nick Hutson Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 This is going to be a SFX from Dynamic attractions. They've said they're building one in the UK, China and Abu-Dabi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 This is going to be a SFX from Dynamic attractions. They've said they're building one in the UK, China and Abu-Dabi. Not the first time I've heard that said, and it could be great, but I struggle to see how the building would be big enough to house a decent version of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merry-go-girl Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Hardly accurate seeing as the boats don't even spin these days! I confess I would not know, I've never been compelled to get on the thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altitude Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Not the first time I've heard that said, and it could be great, but I struggle to see how the building would be big enough to house a decent version of it. Agreed! The track on those things is so big I doubt they'd be able to fit any inside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted March 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 This is going to be a SFX from Dynamic attractions. They've said they're building one in the UK, China and Abu-Dabi. Really hate to be THAT guy, but I think this is one of those posts which requires a source... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Hutson Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Not the first time I've heard that said, and it could be great, but I struggle to see how the building would be big enough to house a decent version of it. They're getting a smaller version. Remember - the video they have is ALL the options available (turntable, drop track, sideways drop, etc) A company can choose to just buy some of the elements. The good thing about this coaster is that doesn't require lift halls - so it can all be done from one height and go downwards instead of up. Guy Nelson has told us they sold one to the UK at IAPPA. There's no other large scale attraction being built in the country... so - thusly, it must be an SFX coming to Thorpe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Guy Nelson has told us they sold one to the UK at IAPPA. There's no other large scale attraction being built in the country... so - thusly, it must be an SFX coming to Thorpe. That we know of. Lots of parks are more secretive and wouldn't have released any details yet, so it's not a definite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 It's usually required by law to release planning details when you go about building a huge show building for a dark ride, remember that's the only reason we know Thorpe Park is building one. We would have seen an equally large planning application for another park if that is the case. Also it's unlikely any of the other attraction operators in the UK would go for one of these extremely expensive and unbankable formats; in the sense it's still very prototypey and therefore a risk, it can still be a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Can't any of the independents being able to afford a massive scale dark ride either, unfortunately... The building is 13m odd isn't it? That'll give us a ride that can reach just under 40ft if so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Do the plans indicate if they will go down too? Although I'd imagine that wouldn't be a good idea at Thorpe since it's on the water table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 There is an area beneath the structure that is something like 3m deep. However this space is for maintenance purposes only. So I would imagine that it will also be the electronic centre. Got to house the lsm systems somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 There is an area beneath the structure that is something like 3m deep. However this space is for maintenance purposes only. That could also include the direct track/hydraulics systems; I think it is marked up as 'maintenance' on the plans to convey that there will be no punters down there (for evac/access design purposes) rather than meaning it will be an entirely separate area, if you know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack F Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 That could also include the direct track/hydraulics systems; I think it is marked up as 'maintenance' on the plans to convey that there will be no punters down there (for evac/access design purposes) rather than meaning it will be an entirely separate area, if you know what I mean. This could also allow more room above ground for the ride? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterio Ka Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Heard someone on some website somewhere say that it;s likely to be a magnetic track. Like mystic manor and such? (bloody yes.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 A maglev track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack F Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 A maglev track? I think he means Disney's trackless cars, like ratatouille or Pooh's Hunny Hunt. Pooh's Hunny Hunt utilises a trackless ride system developed by Walt Disney Imagineering. Although other trackless ride systems do exist on the market (such as ETF's Mystic Mover), Pooh's Hunny Hunt differs in that it utilises an array of sensors as opposed to a dedicated wire embedded in the floor.[1][2][3] A custom local positioning system (LPS; not to be confused with GPS) is used to manage these sensors. The patented control system[1] works by directional data being relayed from a master control computer directly to the vehicles which are fashioned to resemble honey pots. This data is then used to move an individual honey pot car through a complicated matrix embedded within the actual floor tiles. Every few seconds, the master computer generates a random path and ‘steers’ the honey pot in real-time, so as the cars roll through the ride the vehicles are, in fact, being told where to go. Because this system is in real-time, they can maneuver accordingly in just fractions of a second. This also allows for spontaneous yet synchronized ‘honey pot choreography’ with groups of honey pots (as many as 8 in a single show scene) appearing to ‘dance’ with the others, often timed with ‘beats’ in the music.[4] Due to limitless variations possible, each journey through the attraction is unique. Overall, Pooh's Hunny Hunt is reported to have had a budget of $130 million. but these can be expensive. Very expensive and Merlin don't want to spend that kind of money :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge2002 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 I just really don't see the point in a trackless system. Its a complete waste of money when you're not on an "unlimited" budget like Disney are. Yes, its cool that there is no track, and you glide along effortlessly, but this immersion is completed negated by the fact that everywhere you look is surrounded by an ugly metal grid, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Someone hasn't been on a trackless ride system with that statement... The amount of stuff one can do with trackless is pretty limitless... Cant have cars interacting with one another with a normal tracked system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge2002 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 I've been on both Empire of the Penguins and Ratatouille. I'm not saying its not an impressive ride system, from a technical standpoint its a huge innovation. But if Merlin had the choice between an on the rails ride with better theming, or a trackless ride with lower quality theming, I sure as hell know which one I'd prefer. The metal grid I'm on about is forgivable at more well-off theme parks, because they can afford the theming to take your eye off it. But I just don't think Merlin could ever pull it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterio Ka Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Having said that, their recent feat with Gardaland has kindled a potential fire for theming we can expect. They obviously put a nice slice of money into the theming and it really paid off. Fingers are quadruplet-y crossed that they can do something of a similar visual appeal for a dark ride. You say merlin don't have the money but isn't this supposed to be the biggest investment they've made into a single ride/attraction (over park or ticketed attraction) yet? It wouldn't surprise me if they were looking at finer details like this and considering it properly. Anyway, it was just a rumour I think I saw somewhere on youtube, nothing to panic about. Yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Loving how fast and unsourced all these rumours are coming about Keep going! MachoMachine, Kerfuffle and JoshC. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.S217 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Loving how fast and unsourced all these rumours are coming about Keep going! Its a darkride but a launched Wooden coaster with SFX elements Worlds first super coaster Jack F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Merry-go-girl Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Loving how fast and unsourced all these rumours are coming about Keep going! I'd say you've got a good 9 more months worth of rumors to come, pace yourself. FrightNights04 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachoMachine Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 9 months? A child is in the oven, preparing itself to enter this world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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