Mark9 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Be interesting to see how it's taken in a Dive Machine train, even if it is a 6 seater one... Also, points for it not being a Krake clone... I hope not too many points Benin. Out of all the dive machines, this for me is the most uninteresting. Just seems to lack anything beyond Merlin's need to make Gardaland and Heide Park completely similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 I hope not too many points Benin. Out of all the dive machines, this for me is the most uninteresting. Just seems to lack anything beyond Merlin's need to make Gardaland and Heide Park completely similar. It's still in the negative for re-using every single marketing tactic ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 The actual ride layout looks very good for a dive machine, in that it actually has a layout past the first drop (unlike Oblivion). EC! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 The actual ride layout looks very good for a dive machine, in that it actually has a layout past the first drop (unlike Oblivion). Lets face it CJ, this is still the bare minimum that Merlin can get away with. The lack of ambition and effort undermines what the coaster could be. It's Krake with an extra inversion, nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Lets face it CJ, this is still the bare minimum that Merlin can get away with. The lack of ambition and effort undermines what the coaster could be. It's Krake with an extra inversion, nothing more. And a helix (sort of). Yes it does look similar to Krake but at least it has another inversion - they could have put in a clone. EC! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 It's poor. I do feel sorry for Garda being under merlin ownership (then again looking at what attractions it had pre-merlin suggests it wasn't that great to start with..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 236 Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 Before Merlin we had an SLC, screamin squirrel & vekoma corkscrew as the leading rides Now they have a decent mine train coaster, the best Wing Rider in Europe (potentially) and a Krake style dive coaster on the way. Definitely an improved line up since takeover, but just a shame about the minimum of this ride has been applied, thirteen style marketing, Oblivion style logo and a near identical layout to Krake with white track. Efteling on the other hand put a lot more effort on the theming experience and originality of their rides overall (which can definitely be seen in their upcoming dive coaster). Altitude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altitude Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 Efteling is just amazing I agree <3 I know the markets of Efteling and Merlin are different, but in terms of guest experience, I'd have to say Efteling beats all the Merlin-owned parks I've been to by miles! I think this coaster will be a lot of fun, however in my opinion the money could have been spent on something more interesting! Saying that, Gardaland might theme it brilliantly, however I'm not holding my breath for anything like Baron 1898! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Before Merlin we had an SLC, screamin squirrel & vekoma corkscrew as the leading rides Now they have a decent mine train coaster, the best Wing Rider in Europe (potentially) and a Krake style dive coaster on the way. Definitely an improved line up since takeover, but just a shame about the minimum of this ride has been applied, thirteen style marketing, Oblivion style logo and a near identical layout to Krake with white track. Efteling on the other hand put a lot more effort on the theming experience and originality of their rides overall (which can definitely be seen in their upcoming dive coaster). Let's not forget Ramses Pretty much most European parks have a Vekoma Looper and/or SLC in their lineup, it's strange but understandable given Vekoma's popularity when most of the parks were about... Even Efteling has it's own crap Vekoma (but with new trains) that looks out of place compared to everything else around... The problem is more that Gardaland and Heide are seemingly getting the same stuff as well as the usual Merlin problems... It's worrying enough in a country where they have a monopoly, and given especially in Germany where the competition is truly above what Merlin are seemingly capable of, it's a really poor showing... Whilst Italy is a lot more open, the quality in Gardaland is variable... Beyond the two dark rides (Il Corsari/Ramses) and Raptor, there was nothing of a truly amazing quality at the park... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 http://www.gardaland2015.it/en/operation-orange/excavation-elliptical-structure New video, ridiculous backstory continues to be ridiculous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Oblivion LOL OldFarmerDean and Altitude 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 What the hell was that. All this talk about going to the gym and the dialogue in general, ugh. Also has this got a name yet? I have a feeling it's going to be called Vortex... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Has it been mentioned this ride is called Oblivion yet?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC! Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Has it been mentioned this ride is called Oblivion yet?! If thing is actually called Oblivion then I have lost all faith in Merlin... Just found out that Italian for Oblivion is Oblio,wouldn't surprise me this... OldFarmerDean and Altitude 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tom Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 ^ I feel like this is everyone's reaction to everything Merlin does nowadays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Is it actually called Oblivion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Is it actually called Oblivion? Yup. Ain't it a great name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Yup. Ain't it a great name Yes it is, I feel so, so sorry for the people involved with marketing the ride at Alton Towers as their whole work has just been completely copied. If this is the "magic" that Merlin keep on about then I'm sorry but I'm done with them. How can people lack imagination so much? Can't even think of a name for a new coaster? I could have even thought of one! No wonder they can't run their parks properly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 236 Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Oblivion LOL Hooray for Merlin's current originality & creative outlook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 I'm lost here, where is the confirmation that it's called Oblivion? It's used as a turn of phrase in the video, but beyond that? Not a lot else that actually 100% confirms the name as of yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 I'm lost here, where is the confirmation that it's called Oblivion? It's used as a turn of phrase in the video, but beyond that? Not a lot else that actually 100% confirms the name as of yet... It was part of a Merlin performance pack where they refer to it as Oblivion. I'm sure Peter can find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Am I the only one who's enjoyed the backstory and videos, regardless of how silly and lacking in anything substantial they've been? Disappointed if Oblivion does indeed end up being the final name - they could have at least poked fun at themselves and called it Oblivion Inferno! Matt 236 and OldFarmerDean 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 I can't actually find where I read it - awkward. I'll distract you with this: http://www.merlinentertainments.biz/75E5DCB4-AEA8-4CC5-993D-061DA79A0282.CFILE - it's the strategy of Resort Theme Parks over the next few years, including hotel investment. Can be interesting for some. pluk and JoshC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Well on this page they mention talk of it being called 'Oblivion, the black hole' (Which would be even funnier tbh) But otherwise there in no source atm. [offtopic] In relation to that link Fred, I had no idea 51% of Europa's visitors were international - More than Disneyland Paris! [/offtopic] OldFarmerDean 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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