Deleted Users Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Other wing riders may be short but thrilling nonetheless with an immense indulge in theming. Do you include The Swarm in this? I can't say I agree when most of the effects were temperamental this season to put it lightly. By UK standards maybe but I wouldn't class it as 'immense indulge'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Well it is more indulgent than other winged coasters! However I do agree it isn't as interactive as it could of been with its sister park, Gardaland having Raptor which does nothing but interact with the surrounding area with the additional props and elements. When you compare the indulgence to X-Flight which has some (may that be pretty) fountains, a tower and a fake wall you it does make The Swarm look more appealing thematic wise. If The Swarm's effects worked, it could be a pretty top class coaster, but alas it fails to deliver. If it also had more near misses it would be more exciting, slightly contradicting myself here but Swarm does lack a lot of near misses! Anyway Cedar Point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&M Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 GateKeeper seems to be focused on thrilling elements and the sensation of flight, hence all the size of the coaster. It's main focus isn't the near misses, like most other wing coasters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Well it is more indulgent than other winged coasters! However I do agree it isn't as interactive as it could of been with its sister park, Gardaland having Raptor which does nothing but interact with the surrounding area with the additional props and elements. Anyway Cedar Point! I don't wish to say you are wrong, but you are wrong. Raptor doesn't just interact with scenery, it also has the water jets and the misters like The Swarm but unlike The Swarm, they work properly. It also feels like the more complete ride with better near misses. Raptor is far more like a wing-rider Nemesis in the way it interacts with its surroundings, not just additional props. I'm quite glad that all six wing riders so far have been so different. It could have been so easy for Wild Eagle and GateKeeper to be really similar or for X Flight to be a clone of The Swarm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&M Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 I don't wish to say you are wrong, but you are wrong. Raptor doesn't just interact with scenery, it also has the water jets and the misters like The Swarm but unlike The Swarm, they work properly. It also feels like the more complete ride with better near misses. Raptor is far more like a wing-rider Nemesis in the way it interacts with its surroundings, not just additional props. I'm quite glad that all six wing riders so far have been so different. It could have been so easy for Wild Eagle and GateKeeper to be really similar or for X Flight to be a clone of The Swarm. They're near clones already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 They're near clones already. But they aren't. So ner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&M Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Other than being mirrored the only differences are: Swarm has a Inclined loop, X-flight has an Immelman, and X-flight has helix after the inline roll, the two are Very alike. Swarm -Wing over drop -Zero G -Inclined Loop -Curve -Zero G -Curve -inline roll -brakes -turn -brakes X-Flight -Wing over drop -Zero G -Immelmann -Curve -Zero G -Cruve -Inline roll -Helix -Brakes -Turn -Brakes Very minimal difference. Evidence enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 (edited) http://youtubedouble...Name=meahwahwah Similar? yes. But as you say, not the same. The Swarm ends poorly and too soon, X-flight looks awkward to me immediately after the 2nd and 3rd inversions, just doesn't look like it flows properly. But then there is only so much you can tell from a video. I think it is fair to say, even from POVs only, neither are the best example of a B+M winged coaster, but GateKeeper just might be. Edited December 8, 2012 by pluk Clarification I'm not disagreeing with B+M Inferno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_A Posted December 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 GateKeeper's Immelman now towering impressively under the lift. It really does look somewhat reminiscent of a Pretzel Loop! It appears the catwalks at the top of the lift were left off at first in order to ease the construction of the Immelman underneath. Mitchada04, pluk and Sidders 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 That second inversion looks incredibly tight for how soon after and how much lower than the first drop it is. It should carry a huge amount of speed into it and be very very intense. Nice. Sidders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Great way to start the ride there. The immelman looks so tiny compared to the lifthill. B&M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&M Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Looks like its going to be a "Camelback" Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchada04 Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 GateKeeper in the snow, looks perfect on the skyline. Do I spy the completion of the camelback. I do! Can't wait for the entrance pillars and zero-g to be built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jase Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Seem to have this coaster building thing nailed at cedar point. With snow like that here that crane would be long gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchada04 Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 So beautiful pluk, holtjammy16 and Dan9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 The corkscrew is now finished (not pictured)... Looks lovely... Rides in the snow Mitchada04 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPJames Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 That looks so fun much better than the swarm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan9 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Massssive corkscrew. Love the colours, and the white supports look brilliant when they're new as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_A Posted January 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Here's a look at part of GateKeeper's keyhole element at Clermont Steel Fabricators in Batavia, Ohio. This looks like quite an impressive structure, and this is only part of it! Anyone else agree with me that it looks like some of the track sections will be part-supported by this? Looks like them plates with spaces for bolts could be for that. Image from PointBuzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Would make perfect sense to use such a massive structure to part support the coaster... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holtjammy16 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Cedar point really have the best skyline and their coasters are always top notch, I wish it was closer to England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Cedar point really have the best skyline and their coasters are always top notch, I wish it was closer to England Ehhhhhhhhhhh... Not REALLY... There's (excluding Gatekeeper) 3 really good coasters, and few average ones, the odd over-rated one and some terrible ones... 3/16 was not a good return... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holtjammy16 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Ehhhhhhhhhhh... Not REALLY... There's (excluding Gatekeeper) 3 really good coasters, and few average ones, the odd over-rated one and some terrible ones...3/16 was not a good return... Well there's like 14 which look fun that I'd love to ride (in my opinion as I've never been on any) But mainly millienium force, TTD, Raptor, Maverick, Wicked Twister, Mantis.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zalittleguy Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Gatekeeper looks so pretty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&M Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Ehhhhhhhhhhh... Not REALLY... There's (excluding Gatekeeper) 3 really good coasters, and few average ones, the odd over-rated one and some terrible ones...3/16 was not a good return... -Millennium -Maverick -Raptor -Magnum -Dragster -GateKeeper (soon to be) All great coasters. For you to say "Not REALLY" doesn't make much sense. There aren't many parks out there that offer this amount of quality coasters. Maybe Magic Mountain or Great Adventure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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