Benin Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 I mean London Resort is never going to happen. So that point is laughable moot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt N Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 Have we heard anything from the committee about a decision? Or are we all waiting on Jack Silkstone’s livestream to hear the news? I checked Runnymede Borough Council’s website less than an hour ago, and nothing had been added, but that could have been changed since… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML27 Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 Checked that first random planning application, that didn’t change after they moved onto thorpe park. Waiting for Jack Silkstones stream, Twitter is a mess now. People saying it’s been approved, running wild and saying “imagine if we see work start” wait until it has to be referred to government. I can’t imagine it’s been rejected, but a lot of fake news on Twitter Matt N 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt N Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 For what it’s worth, DigitalDan is saying it’s been approved: If true, that’s very exciting news indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML27 Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 Notoriously known for being a wind up, I’d like to know he’s sources and the mates in the comments seem like they are on a wind up. also anyway, if it was approved, what’s happened with the EA objection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt N Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 Jack Silkstone has confirmed in his livestream that it’s been unanimously approved by the council! It still needs to go to the Secretary of State due to the EA’s objections, but this is still a huge step! jessica2 and JoshC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML27 Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 But EA objections STILL remain, leading this planning permission to be referred to the Secretary of State, so it can actually be approved. The amount of misinformation is unreal. Matt N 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 This is obviously great news. As I understand it, what this now means is: -Construction still cannot take place until the Secretary of State has made their decision -Thorpe directly requested the decision go to the Secretary of State, owing to the EA dragging their heels and being uncooperative -Whatever the Secretary of State rules will be pretty much final. The EA could appeal, but as I understand it, that would be unsuccessful -The decision from the Secretary of State seems like it could take up to 22 weeks to be reached. Including time for Christmas breaks, we're looking at mid-March 2023 at the potential latest for a decision. That assumes no delays or other things I don't know about. Obviously it could be significantly quicker though. Now here's the thing. If construction was due to start next month, and gets delayed until say March/April 2023, how significant will that be? Will we see the ride open summer 2024? Or even later in the year? Or do the park pull the executive decision and wait till 2025 to open it? Good news, and I reckon it means Exodus is coming for definite. But when is the big question. coasterverse and Matt N 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMoo Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 My money's on 2025 now, which will mean - finally - 2024 will see the new IP with the "Stath Lets Flats" area taking over Angry Birds land, with the long rumoured 2nd Detonator tower being installed, a record breaking 5 Frog Hoppers, a Miami, and Ramases Revenge being installed inside the 4D Cinema (it's currently in storage in one of the Shark Cabins). jessica2, coasterverse and JoshuaWAHH3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML27 Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 When the case gets referred to the Secretary of State, it will get published on this link So how long will it take, I’ve looked at the other planning applications which have been referred using the link provided. Just simply typed Runnymede Borough Council and it came up with all the applications. So how long will it take? Well based of other applications it’s currently taking between 2 months and 6 months to approve applications (this all depends on the complexity of each individual planning application) This shows it could take upto half a year but definitely could be way earlier. Note: Rejecting a planning application is possible. The screenshots below show it has been done before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 4 hours ago, MattyMoo said: My money's on 2025 now, which will mean - finally - 2024 will see the new IP with the "Stath Lets Flats" area taking over Angry Birds land, with the long rumoured 2nd Detonator tower being installed, a record breaking 5 Frog Hoppers, a Miami, and Ramases Revenge being installed inside the 4D Cinema (it's currently in storage in one of the Shark Cabins). It's worrying that I have to double check the poster these days to see if it's an actual joke or some made up fan rumour. JoshuaWAHH3 and MattyMoo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inferno Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 I know this is sort of old news but it's pretty shocking that the Environment Agency seemingly just gave up responding etc. The applicant shouldn't have to take it upon themselves to push it through to government level should they. From what I've heard so far from being in the Fire Service it's a similar story. "On a different planet" has been informally used to describe them. I don't have first hand experience, but get the impression they don't play nicely with others and their people skills leave something to be desired. But that's none of my business ☕️ Still... Glad this project is finally going somewhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 I went to an EA run event earlier in the year with one of those dinners afterwards. Typical sort of lot who'd spend more time and money patting themselves on the back for a job well done than actually doing anything. Inferno, coasterverse and jessica2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML27 Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 As things currently stand, we should have a decision by the Secretary of State within 21 days. Runnymede council have contracted a company to assess the EAs objections and see if the plans would meet the Law. Runnymede council assumes that if there is no response from the SOS within 21 days, then they can proceed with detirming the application and the SOS will no longer play a part in the application. coasterverse and Inferno 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Given the current operating standards of our incumbent government, I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up becoming part of a new planned budget. coasterverse and Inferno 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parm Pap Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 are you going first. well I was thinking that cos you're pulling away too fast and we need to keep at the same speed. yes. this needs fix. yes well we think so but we're waiting for the last bit. but it's all steam ahead mostly. or no steam as it may be. well, we have to cut somewhere and we don't want to lose 10. let's do some Train ing yeah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML27 Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 Due to todays political news, I’d expect the likeliness of the decision being delayed is much higher Inferno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMoo Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Exodus ain't opening for the start of the 2024 season is it - let's be honest... Hopefully there's a Plan B so there aren't two seasons of trying to get people through the door based on events and relocated junior rides... Inferno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 20 hours ago, MattyMoo said: Exodus ain't opening for the start of the 2024 season is it - let's be honest... Hopefully there's a Plan B so there aren't two seasons of trying to get people through the door based on events and relocated junior rides... Summer openings are the big thing these days so will probably just postpone it and get a new IP for Ghost Train and call it a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMoo Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 On 10/25/2022 at 9:37 AM, Benin said: Summer openings are the big thing these days so will probably just postpone it and get a new IP for Ghost Train and call it a day. ....and maybe rename Fins again for good measure? coasterverse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML27 Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 The SOS has indeed changed, it is now Michael Gove. Unless civil servants are mainly in charge of the application, it’s definitely going to be delayed a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, ML27 said: The SOS has indeed changed, it is now Michael Gove. Unless civil servants are mainly in charge of the application, it’s definitely going to be delayed a bit. Considering the country is collapsing all around us, I think I could probably live with Exodus being delayed by a few months. Coaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1729 Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 Also there has been suggestion that Exodus may be delayed, not due to planning or SOS or whatever But Due to MACK MACK is currently Fulfilling a big order for Universal for a duelling launched coaster for Epic Universe plus other flats, this order was put on hold and then replaced with a order for that and a spinner (some reports of a normal some of extreme) for the same park. So there's a good chance Exodus may be moved back due to MACK's orders being moved around due to a company with more money and scope fast tracking a order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterverse Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 20 minutes ago, 1729 said: Also there has been suggestion that Exodus may be delayed, not due to planning or SOS or whatever But Due to MACK MACK is currently Fulfilling a big order for Universal for a duelling launched coaster for Epic Universe plus other flats, this order was put on hold and then replaced with a order for that and a spinner (some reports of a normal some of extreme) for the same park. So there's a good chance Exodus may be moved back due to MACK's orders being moved around due to a company with more money and scope fast tracking a order Can't really see this happening for this reason - not only would it be just bad general business practice, but as far as Thorpe are concerned could also provide a very negative impact on their own business operation considering they're likely going to be marketing for a 2024 opening date, thus potentially also leading to a possible lawsuit for loss of earnings. Not to say that it definitely couldn't happen, especially as Thorpe haven't technically marketed any launch date yet so as far as the GP are concerned there would be no delay, but I feel like it would be extraordinarily bad business practise on Mack's end to go this route (unless Thorpe are happy to let it slide considering the current planning permission fiasco and therefore buying them a little more time). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parm Pap Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUR, HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA *funny hat* Wobble wobble wobble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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