MattyMoo

This. News articles saying that you can pre-order Vive's from 29th February, and will be available "early April". I hope Thorpe are high up that pre-order queue or it could be interesting...

I remember someone saying there was going to be a train carriage in there for the last 6 months

I reckon Ripsaw will be closed

About bloody time - a shockingly sensible move from Merlin. Swarm Backwards was a poor decision in the first place that screamed desperation on Merlin's part and caused confusion and delays with queues/loading... best rid in my opinion. The Swarm is and always has been a strong enough ride that did not need such a pointless gimmick.

I'm going to hold off visiting Thorpe until an opening date is confirmed (that includes the Opening Meet that's planned) as I'm not fussed to go twice in quick succession

My attendance will depend on DBGT being open as I don't want to go to Thorpe twice in quick succession travelling from Portsmouth.

Indeed - interesting that they are already saying that they cannot provide ongoing updates - they'll probably be saying that a lot once the park opens, the season goes on, and Loggers remains untouched...

^ This. It does smack of "jack of all trades, master of none" as the saying goes... such an odd decision that doesn't really fit in with anything or the direction that Thorpe were supposed to be taking.

Why not just stick it next to SAW Alive somewhere, at least it would fit in there.

Chessington and wood fences just don't seem to go together do they?

But if the park isn't struggling now - why not bring back SAW Alive all year round too? (PS. To reiterate - I did really really like Containment as an attraction, but to have it year round I think is a mistake)

I loved Containment but a year long attraction? Not a good move if that's the plan - SAW Alive didn't work financially as a year round attraction so I can't really see this being any different, unless it is a permanent upcharge being applied, in which case, it maybe could work out. It still irks me greatly seeing SAW Alive sitting there for 80% of the season not being used.

Oh man I want to go back to Orlando. And it's not even been a year yet.

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Yep - a tube train judging by the yellow poles... I'm thinking some sort of time travel element to the ride - going from a tube train to somehow that Victorian train carriage.

My thoughts on this - still - are much the same as before - I'm intrigued and very excited, but due to past Merlin-isms I am wary! I want it to be bloody awesome but wait to ride with baited breath. As I said previously - the Derren tie in for me is a big plus because I really don't think he'd put his name to something if it wasn't any good and he didn't believe in it 100%. I hope it is a game changer and knocks it out of the park, I really do. I also hope it's looked after properly and the little touches don't get forgotten about. I worry that if they can't look after projectors in Smiler's queue line (from past visits), then a few years down the line the abandoned theming of the attraction could be a little *too* realistic I want this to be a turning point for Merlin and Thorpe in a good way. I was - and still am - impressed with the theming around The Swarm and hope that this exceeds that. Having been to Orlando last year, it'll be interesting to compare DBGT with the dark-ride offerings at Universal and Disney.

Oh look, it's a train carriage...

A... train you say?

I forgot to specify in my joke that the Edgware Road to Hammersmith branch was closed due to engineering work.

By the way, in case anyone missed it in August - there may or may not be an Underground carriage in there. Just. Saying. Again.

Derren Brown: The Circle Line (No final stop)

Oh, a train station you say....

You know me too well. To be honest, I'm surprised Jart didn't come on here and tell us that Air was being rebranded as Galactic ahead of any official word.

Should be OK for this I reckon!

I forgot I had a family commitment on the 2nd so am going to have to dip out I'm afraid, sorry chaps and chapesses.