Diesel Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 ^ I completely disagree. Whilst Stealth was closed the entire queue was litter picked countless times (as well as all the grassy areas), the train that was on circuit was cleaned of bugs, dirt and grease, the platform was swept of all the dirt hair and other things as well being de-gummed. The bag room was swept thoroughly as well as the counter washed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBobJones Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Shouldn't these tasks of cleaning, litter picking etc be a daily task? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 ^ I completely disagree. Whilst Stealth was closed the entire queue was litter picked countless times (as well as all the grassy areas), the train that was on circuit was cleaned of bugs, dirt and grease, the platform was swept of all the dirt hair and other things as well being de-gummed. The bag room was swept thoroughly as well as the counter washed. Well we agree then?! They should be doing these things and if they are now then excellent, things must have changed as they certainly never used to. I look forward to seeing Inferno's shiny station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Like the rides staff will be cleaning the volcano part of the station... Technically, that's not even part of their job tasks really... Queueline is essentially the only aspect the rides staff are expected to clean, the rest is usually dictated to other departments to organise and sort out... I dunno what people expect really... The staff are stood there for a reason, to ensure that if/when the ride reopens they are readily available... Imagine the faff if they were on the other side of the park or in the middle of cleaning the volcano, there'd be more faff as the staff would have to pack the cleaning equipment up before being able to open it... I think the majority of guests at Thorpe also wouldn't give a damn about some dirty volcano over a ride being open in a minute after being handed back over from Engineering... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomglazed Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Your damned if you do damned if you don't. If you have people standing by the ride to interact with the customer and give information? People say that is a waste of staff time to have them positioned there when they could be utilised elsewhere. If you have no staff stationed outside the ride to interact with the customer? People would complain about the lack of attentive staff or lack of information being given to guests... It's a very fine line. c1hrisin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 ^It hasn't got to be all of them or none of them though, has it? Of course 1 or 2 to explain things are necessary, I think it is when a gang of them are standing there people have a bit of a problem with it. Like the rides staff will be cleaning the volcano part of the station... I dunno what people expect really... The staff are stood there for a reason, to ensure that if/when the ride reopens they are readily available... Imagine the faff if they were on the other side of the park or in the middle of cleaning the volcano, there'd be more faff as the staff would have to pack the cleaning equipment up before being able to open it... I think the majority of guests at Thorpe also wouldn't give a damn about some dirty volcano over a ride being open in a minute after being handed back over from Engineering... It is the inside of the station that has been filth, just look up while you're in there. I'm not suggesting they whip up some scaffolding to the exterior and get the paintbrushes out. And again, of course they shouldn't go off elsewhere - I'm talking of presenting the ride they are operating anyway, it would take them no longer at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 ^I think it might not help that with Thorpe's "uniform", a group of Thorpe workers milling about doing nothing isn't the same as at Towers or Chessie... You would hate if Sub Terra was closed as well as Air mind... Although with the Phalanx outfits it does look awesome... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 I think ride by ride basis. Stealth is an exception to me as its such a large plaza and many a time I've seen guests just run at the ride and staff running after them and yeah amusing. If its Inferno then surely two of the staff at the entrance, the others doing basic tasks like cleaning the station of cobwebs etc etc. Part of the problem is the roles though, ride staff are expected to be at an attraction but they rarely have the pride that a more permanent member of staff will have. Standing around talking would be more fun then grabbing a litter picker and cleaning Dragons Furys final turn for example.. pluk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge2002 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 That right there screams piss awful management to me. You would never get that kind of behavior in a (well run) restaurant for example. The moment it dies down, you'll see staff out there cleaning tables, polishing cutlery, sweeping floors etc. There should be a persistent management presence around to allocate tasks properly rather than having team members do whatever they like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealthowl Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Just to throw it out there, when SAW was shut for three days the staff in turn took the time to go into the ride areas and clean (inside and out) as I recall going to the drop zone to clean around the rubble. The staff do clean as well as stand around. But you've got to consider when you see five people stood outside Stealth, there's at least three other members of staff doing something else. Same with Inferno, when there's two out the front, there's two more cleaning somewhere or sometimes even helping Engineering by putting bars down on cars or something. Until you've physically been there and done it you cannot punch at the staff, they do as requested of them. Bearing in mind you can say all you like about litter picking Fury's final turn, or cleaning Stealth's lake, the ride has to be locked off / the action has to be pre-passed by higher authority to do it for safety regulations. (This is a post by SAWROB. Stealthowl just left his account logged in) Sidders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammydodger Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 Front seat stealth gives you probably the best sensation of the rush and the wind aswell as the nerves and the butterflies in your stomach before you go on. Probably the best sensation in the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Taken by Thorpe themselves... Just checking the track really, nothing actually special as it's typical of maintenance of track based objects, checking visually for cracks and the like... That zipwire is used for access to the top, will forever be there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokesyboy Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 That zipwire is used for access to the top, will forever be there... I believe the reason why that zipwire will remain there is because it's alot cheaper for someone to climb up it and give Stealth a push if it gets stuck at the top again, cheaper than hiring a crane out to give it a little push at least! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideAddict Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 That zipwire is used for access to the top, will forever be there... Is it still there today? I believe the reason why that zipwire will remain there is because it's alot cheaper for someone to climb up it and give Stealth a push if it gets stuck at the top again, cheaper than hiring a crane out to give it a little push at least! Impossible - do you realise en empty train is about 10 or 20 tonnes in weight? You'd need a damn strong bloke to push it! Also, this is a ManiaHub video from when it got stuck in 2009 - and I was there to witness it when they finally got it to roll back down: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Coaster trains aren't THAT difficult to push actually, I've pushed the Vampire trains a few times (empty AND full) and due to the design it's all about getting that little bit of extra starting momentum to get it going... When Stealth gets stuck, it only needs a wee push in either direction to go down... And the latest pics on FB show it's still there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokesyboy Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Is it still there today? Impossible - do you realise en empty train is about 10 or 20 tonnes in weight? You'd need a damn strong bloke to push it! Also, this is a ManiaHub video from when it got stuck in 2009 - and I was there to witness it when they finally got it to roll back down: Yes and I am friends with one of the members who was part of the team that was on that day when it got stuck, he told me that that rope was put in place as it's much cheaper than hiring a crane, and like Benin said, it doesn't take that much to push it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 The rope was there that day, it just wasnt used for what ever reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 The rope was there that day, it just wasnt used for what ever reason. Wasn't that one of the days were none of the people trained to go up there weren't in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 No idea tbh! I know it was replaced soon after it got stuck so maybe they couldnt use that one for what ever reason. I guess with an empty train theres no real rush so a crane like that whilst more expensive is probably easier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideAddict Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Wasn't that one of the days were none of the people trained to go up there weren't in? It was on a Sunday on a bank holiday! And I wouldn't fancy pushing a train (if I could). I think a Vampire train is a little lighter and less advanced in build quality and weight and compared to a Stealth one. I remember pulling into the car park that morning, seeing a train sitting on the top hat was one of the first things I spotted. It was around 12-1pm they finally got it down, around 10:30am I was talking to a chap about it who told me it happened during the morning tests. When I asked him if he knew who put it up there he looked a bit uncomfortable and then said "Err, yeah, I did actually!" That was hilarious him admitting that, certainly didn't expect that! It was probably all those added car effects weighing the train down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokesyboy Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 It even made it onto the Sun's website http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4815822/Workers-carry-out-safety-checks-on-UKs-highest-rollercoaster.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Sorta PR that the park should be doing tbh, not an overally stupid topic, gets the park mentioned and is rather interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 A nice little "nod" to say "hey, don't forget about stealth" Stokesyboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideAddict Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Yes and I am friends with one of the members who was part of the team that was on that day when it got stuck, he told me that that rope was put in place as it's much cheaper than hiring a crane, and like Benin said, it doesn't take that much to push it! Thorpe do make me laugh with classic cases like this. They have that huge Genie cherrypicker that's stored by Saw, now I don't know what height that reaches but I assume it can reach basics like Nemesis' corkscrews, Colossus' loop, and the Teacups roof, to name but a few. But it certainly doesn't go up 205ft to Stealth's tophat, and I doubt it reaches the very top of Detonator either. Thorpe are all for these high rides, but they never always have the equipment to reach them, and it often comes at a price! Laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inferno Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 ^ ok, but why would they buy a new expensive crane when they can just use the rope that's already there? What they have works, so why change it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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