April 8, 201213 yr comment_135934 There is a reason if you, as an adult without a child, are happy to be lumped into a category with morons as someone not to be trusted to ride in a boat for no good reason. What if the stupid people had all been black, of oriental, or gay etc. They, quite rightly, would not say 'well, lets ban all blacks/orientals/gays from the ride', would they? But adult without a child is an acceptable group to declare unfit? Why? And I said it was a dumb example, but it serves a purpose demonstrating a point: this rule does not get rid of the stupid people by the restrictions on it, but does stop a hugely disproportionate amount of perfectly capable people from riding.
April 8, 201213 yr comment_135935 There is a reason if you, as an adult without a child, are happy to be lumped into a category with morons as someone not to be trusted to ride in a boat for no good reason. What if the stupid people had all been black, of oriental, or gay etc. They, quite rightly, would not say 'well, lets ban all blacks/orientals/gays from the ride', would they? But adult without a child is an acceptable group to declare unfit? Why? And I said it was a dumb example, but it serves a purpose demonstrating a point: this rule does not get rid of the stupid people by the restrictions on it, but does stop a hugely disproportionate amount of perfectly capable people from riding. I see your point, but I dont know what happened and I doubt many here do, the only people who will know about any incidents will be the park, if the majority of these incidents are caused by what they define as "adults" and choose to restrict the ride for a short time till measures are in place to improve this then thats ok with me.
April 8, 201213 yr comment_135940 What Pluk is imagining here, is its the fault of the individual itself to create the incident - rather than others in the boat.
April 8, 201213 yr comment_135942 Not at this rate! If they keep this hardly anyone will ride it. They can't be serious ??? Me and my friends always go on this as a breather from the thrills
April 8, 201213 yr comment_135955 Health and Safety is the number 1 priority in this industry. It seems the park has not taken this decision lightly but have ultimately come to this conclusion for the health and safety of all their guests. It seems unfair and discriminatory but in this instance I feel a one rule fits all policy is the fairest in an unfortunate situation. As others have said; it sounds temporary until the park can implement other measures.
April 8, 201213 yr comment_135956 The trouble is, if any incidents were caused by teenagers and they didn't institute a 'one size fits all' policy turning teenagers away, and instead turned away those who 'looked like they'd do something stupid', Thorpe would receive just as many complaints as they are now. However, as has been rightly brought up, just because someone is with an under 12, does not mean they won't do stupid things, or the under 12s won't do stupid things It's an unfortunate decision, and one I doubt any of us actually think is good that this is happening. To be honest, it's a lose-lose situation for most of the guests and for Thorpe. As is the way in the life, the stupidity of the small minority has ruined something for the majority...
April 8, 201213 yr comment_135958 What Pluk is imagining here, is its the fault of the individual itself to create the incident - rather than others in the boat. So it goes back to the same point - someone with children is incapable of causing problems to other guests then, are they? A dumb and incorrect assumption. If that is the issue no forced mixed party boats would be a more proportionate measure, obviously cause a larger queue but be fairer all round, don't you think?
April 8, 201213 yr comment_135959 Well hang on a second, what if a 14 year old who looked like a 12 year old was with his family and Thorpe had no way of proving he was over 12. Or the other way around, what if a child with his family was under 12 but Thorpe turned them all away because they had reason to believe the child was above the age limit? Obviously you could have your ticket or a form of ID but I'm not sure how many people keep hold of their ticket beyond the gate (I'm not sure if you even get it back after the turnstiles, I've had a Merlin Pass since I was 11.) Or how many 12 year olds have ID other than their passports, which I highly doubt they would bring to Thorpe Park! Whilst the restriction is obviously necessary, it does have its flaws...
April 8, 201213 yr comment_135960 Probably playing Devil's Advocate here, but how would Thorpe look if, after the accident that prompted this limited availability, they did nothing? Perhaps it's a means of reacting for the sake of reacting; if Thorpe did nothing, how would that make them look?
April 8, 201213 yr comment_135961 Damned if they do and damned if they don't really... Of course only those with insider info will know the full story, and of course serious incidents are unlikely to come into the fore so the reasoning behind this (to the majority) will be unknown... Therein lies the problem, they cannot reveal the reasoning, but because of that it seems stupid for them to implement this idea...
April 8, 201213 yr comment_135963 Still flawed logic. Thorpe doing nothing in what sense? If the ride itself is safe and has done nothing wrong nothing needs changing to it or its operation, if a person has they need changing. If they've done something to.endanger the lives of others they.need arresting. The park assisting an investigation is plenty enough action. You can't health and safety out the risk of actions of someone who wants to cause another harm. People have their own personal responsibility. Two wrongs don't make a right, and this is wrong.
April 8, 201213 yr comment_135964 Okay, okay - don't shoot the messenger! Was just an idea - good counter-argument though. It is a shame that, like what Josh said, the minority have taken advantage and spoilt the ride for the majority, for however short or long a period of time.
April 8, 201213 yr comment_135970 I'd laugh if this just turned out to be one of Thorpe's crappy attempts at a PR...
April 9, 201213 yr comment_135971 Just found this on YouTube it was uploaded 3 years ago so this won't be why rapids is not available to 90% of the people that go to the park but still interesting to se how stupid some people are.
April 9, 201213 yr comment_135979 Well I think that swimming video could be 1 of a catalogue of incidents that has forced the park's hand into implementing this rule. However could it simply be just a temporary measure over Easter in a bid to keep the queueline/trouble to a minimum?
April 9, 201213 yr comment_135980 Thing is are we saying every time the park gets busy, they'll ban 90% of the guests who go. I really can't see how the park can do anything to change the nature of the ride. You go with seatbelts, they can be undone, you stop the turntable to allow guests on like at rainbow magicland, you severely cripple the throughput. You ban anyone without a child which is actually quite discriminationary, the park then looks to be stopping accidents by stopping anyone riding... At all.
April 9, 201213 yr comment_135989 On the face of it, the whole thing seems a bit senseless. Perhaps if we knew why the park had decided to implement this 'rule' it would make more sense, then again perhaps not....
April 9, 201213 yr comment_135990 I use Rumba Rapids as a break from the thrill rides because its the only water ride where you don't get wet. I know its hard to find the people causing the trouble but stopping everyone over 12 from going on is a bit OTT.
April 9, 201213 yr comment_135999 I use Rumba Rapids as a break from the thrill rides because its the only water ride where you don't get wet. Storm Surge?
April 9, 201213 yr comment_136002 You didn't ride it this season then it would seen! Got pretty darn wet on it both of my times, wetter than you would on Loggers in one case..
April 9, 201213 yr comment_136006 Storm surge gets your feet wet because they are submerged in scummy water for about 15 minutes whilst the staff try and get you back into the station.
April 9, 201213 yr comment_136007 Never ridden it... Of course, I believe a water ride shouldn't rely on external effects to get you wet either...
April 9, 201213 yr comment_136021 Never ridden it... Of course, I believe a water ride shouldn't rely on external effects to get you wet either... It certainly got us wet through the ride alone on my last ride..
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