Ricky Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 It tends to be the motor causing the issue, no matter what setting your on the ride motor can't position itself correctly. It's already been said that you can fix the problem but as soon as you put people on the ride it's back to the same old same old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattgwise Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Samurai is programmed to have each pod start and end in the same position. I guess it refuses to lower if it is even a couple of mm out of place thus causing the common problem with finding its zero position. Other top scans I have been on lower you in any random place and lowers virtually instantly once the ride arm comes to a stop. In case you don't get what I mean, for example you could start by going to the pod at the back of the ride and then when the cycle finishes you are suddenly at the front of the ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 I think one of the issues may be that Samurai is one of the very few that actually are programmed with cycles. Most of (if not all) the travelling ones are all driven manually by the operator who have years of experience with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 The problem seems to be with the main arm rather than the cross - you tend to line up above the marked areas but with the main arm a couple of degrees off-centre. I suspect the weight distribution of the ride could have something to do with it, but it seems like the sort of thing the ride should be capable of compensating for. I remember on one occasion last year the ride lowered with the pods slightly off their intended position. Rather than just ignore it, the ride was raised and rotated all the way round, only for it to stop in the wrong place a 2nd time. Another 359 degrees later we'd finally got back to where we were supposed to be and were finally let off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappomatic Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Didn't know until today that they won't run Samurai with fewer than 15 riders. Park was so dead today that we had to wait for more people to turn up to ride before they'd let us on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMoo Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Didn't know until today that they won't run Samurai with fewer than 15 riders. Park was so dead today that we had to wait for more people to turn up to ride before they'd let us on! I would assume that's to do with balancing the ride? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 It's so that if it breaks down - the weight of the riders will bring it down nearer the platform. Chessie didn't have this rule - instead it had the poles beside the ride (ones with flags on) which they'd use to lower it. pluk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideAddict Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Didn't know until today that they won't run Samurai with fewer than 15 riders. Park was so dead today that we had to wait for more people to turn up to ride before they'd let us on! Exactly - balancing. And I do believe Slammer works on a similar scale, I know that they do have to get the same amount of people in each paddle (or nearer). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPJames Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Didn't know until today that they won't run Samurai with fewer than 15 riders. Park was so dead today that we had to wait for more people to turn up to ride before they'd let us on! Last year I went when the park was so dead we had do wait for 20 mins for samurai to reach 15 people. We had a really good setting though and because the park was so dead we stayed on 2 more times(in a row) and got great settings! That was proabably the only time I have ever had good settings on samurai!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteknuckle Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Went on it once today. Rubbish setting, and took about 3 minutes to get to the lowering position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Exactly - balancing. And I do believe Slammer works on a similar scale, I know that they do have to get the same amount of people in each paddle (or nearer). Samurai isn't for balancing, it's for what I mentioned. Slammer needs equal (or near enough equal to) loading on each paddle. Silly really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlonderSouth Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 I can't believe it's reached such an awful state I think they need an updated (more reliable) model with wider spaced seats. Anyone else hate how squashed your arms are? I personally love to put my arms up and feel threatened by a ride but I can't by Samurai, so uncomfortably squished D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPJames Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Went on it once today. Rubbish setting, and took about 3 minutes to get to the lowering positionJust ask for a good setting... I can't believe it's reached such an awful state I think they need an updated (more reliable) model with wider spaced seats. Anyone else hate how squashed your arms are? I personally love to put my arms up and feel threatened by a ride but I can't by Samurai, so uncomfortably squished D: Mhm it's really squashed- I sware other topscans have more arm room? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 This ride's so strange, went on it yesterday and had one of the best rides I've ever had on it, and it lowered straight away without the faff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 The distance the seating is stopping from the platform is laughable. It is not exaggerating to say if it gets any worse they will need ladders to get people on and off, in fact they need to be careful they don't end up with some stupid injury claim because asking people to jump that high from an unstable seat on to a wet metal platform is a bit risky. Strangely today I had a good ride, a couple of nice little manoeuvres, but I think this was luck more than ride effort. It wasn't going particularly fast. RideAddict 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideAddict Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Slammer needs equal (or near enough equal to) loading on each paddle. Silly really! Why? It makes sense. I think they need an updated (more reliable) model with wider spaced seats. Are Topscans made with wide spaced seats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 It's silly that the weight has to be almost spot on both sides - it can only be a person difference. Would've thought it'd cater for like 5 people extra on one side or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge2002 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 I don't understand why it has to park on specific loading bays, just write the numbers of the arms on top, and that will sort out the loading issue. Every other fairground model lands where it lands... Spark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spark Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 I don't get why they don't just do this too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Was designed to speed up boarding and all issues arising from a free-for-all. Having numbers on arms will be utterly pointless as they'll constantly move, so guests will be confused where to go and it won't help at all. May as well go back to the old days than do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Coaster Man Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Today it seemed to be behaving itself. Ride cycle was decent and it didn't paticularly struggle to park. However I can agree that the seats are really high compared to last season, I had to rely on my imaginary gymnastic skills to get into the seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Why does it matter where they lower, to board people could still go to 'pod 6' even if it was pod 3 before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBobJones Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Unless your going for Row 5 seat 2 of course (Larger seat) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideAddict Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 I don't understand why it has to park on specific loading bays, just write the numbers of the arms on top, and that will sort out the loading issue. Every other fairground model lands where it lands... I don't get this either but could it be to do with the slanted loading platform? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkadder312 Posted March 18, 2013 Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 can anyone tell me what the loading theme they are using this year for samurai? I'm hoping to get my annual pass in a couple weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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