thorpeparkjunkie Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Saw: The Ride is a great coaster however it can pretty rough and gives me a slight headache if I ride it more than 2 times in a day but overall its a great experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Firstly saw has what I would describe as a better theme.Gonna go any further into the reason why? Is the reponse going to be along the lines of "MM is generic whilst Saw has a 'story'"Secondly on mystery mine you are inside for a very short time.What? No way is that true... Firstly the first indoor section which is probs just as long as Saw's, then you go indoors AGAIN for the second lift... Something Saw definitely doesn't do...Thirdly on mystery mine the indoor drop is rubbish.This is relative... But MM has TWO indoors drops... The second of which is epic...Lastly saw is much better at suprising you than mystery mine.That's about the only part I agree with on Saw for the first drop, but the second indoor drop's extra theming is very suprising... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holtjammy16 Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 it was just an average (and rough) Eurofighter that got an IP attached to it to make it more scary...It's scarier walking down my street than going on that ride...Well... At least it wasn't advertised as an insane new generation phsycoaster... and ended up like 60ft high with trims.And you may not think it's scary but I bet alot over half the general public found this ride scary... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Well... At least it wasn't advertised as an insane new generation phsycoaster... and ended up like 60ft high with trims.Different ride, different park, I've never compared Thirteen to Saw so why you're finding an urge to I'm not understanding the point...And you may not think it's scary but I bet alot over half the general public found this ride scary...Probably, but that's the general public... Not exactly the brightest bunch in general in regards to rides and such are they? electricBlll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holtjammy16 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Different ride, different park, I've never compared Thirteen to Saw so why you're finding an urge to I'm not understanding the point...Probably, but that's the general public... Not exactly the brightest bunch in general in regards to rides and such are they?I never said you did compare them.. there's not much to understand.And that's such a ridiculous statement... why do they need to be? it's them that matter most to thorpe park and it's advertising when there's alot more of them paying to get in then us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 And you may not think it's scary but I bet alot over half the general public found this ride scary...Guests get scared sitting down on Tiny Truckers, are we really using "fear" as a basis on how good a ride is. Same question to Benin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollerross11 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 It's all our opinions and we don't need people to bitch about them, So what if you find SAW better than MM but what matters is that it gets ticket sales well that's all Thorpe Park care about :S , I know this is fan club forum but I don't understand how people can be fans if u hate what the park do! LOL anyway do you think most people who have been on SAW have been on MM!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Guests get scared sitting down on Tiny Truckers, are we really using "fear" as a basis on how good a ride is. Same question to Benin. Haha, thanks for the memories of seeing people trying to squeeze into that... It's all our opinions and we don't need people to bitch about them, So what if you find SAW better than MM but what matters is that it gets ticket sales well that's all Thorpe Park care about :S , I know this is fan club forum but I don't understand how people can be fans if u hate what the park do! LOL anyway do you think most people who have been on SAW have been on MM!!Hardly anyone who goes to Thorpe/Alton/Chessie/Lego/Anywhere will have even heard of Dollywood, let alone Mystery Mine... But that's because it's not in an excessively major UK tourist destination in the States... Even with the Smokey Mountains a stone's throw away (as an aside, I really suggest that everyone look into going there, it's amazing), and the general area being a tourist trap, it's certainly not number 1 on many lists...My point is that I reckon even without the branding Thorpe would've got people through the gates with good advertisement... How hard would it have been to advertise a spooky mine/saw mill themed coaster (as per the original posters) to the masses?And who said I was a fan of Thorpe? I very rarely have much good to say about the park through my own personal experiences at it... I'm not bitching about anything, just continuing discussion about Saw and a rather similar ride in America that I've been on... A ride that I happen to rate higher...And that's such a ridiculous statement... why do they need to be? it's them that matter most to thorpe park and it's advertising when there's alot more of them paying to get in then us...I do know that the GP are indeed the most important part of any park's income stream, but that doesn't stop them being rather unknowing in terms of ride types and the like, which was my point... How many would know that Stealth and Colossus are done by the same company? Parks seem to go for easy links in order to get guests through the gates... Looking at Thorpe's coasters since Tussauds came in it's very obvious about the gimmicks and such...Colossus - 10 inversionsInferno - Billed as the "World's Greatest Roller-Coaster Experience" during construction... In addition the Nemesis name probably added in order to make many people link the original Towers version with it...Stealth - 'Tallest' and Fastest in EuropeSaw - "First Horror Film Themed Ride" I believe was the term they usedSimply put, it's very easy to manipulate guests into following the park's marketing procedures (None more obvious than with Thirteen's advertising) by putting this that and the other surrounding it... But when people come off fantastic rides saying "It was good, but needs loops", it kinda puts me off many GP... When I go to Towers and see 5/10 minute queues on Oblivion and 20 on Nemesis yet queues of 60 on Rita I just wonder what sort of mind-frame GP have... More often than not bigger and faster do not mean better... TTD in my experience is the singular exception to that rule...I've tangented a bit here... But I stand by my point of the GP not exactly being the brightest bulbs in the box... With the tales of death, underground inversions, letting go of restraints making you fall out and wondering if Vampire does actually spend the entire ride upside down I heard over the years, it's kinda hard to defend them overall... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Users Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 The new Eurofighter Dare Devil Dive Coaster at Six Flags Over Georgia has confirmed lap bars and a holding brake at the top of the first drop. Here's to hoping that it's a possibility for lap bars to be fitted on Saw.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_A Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Lap bars on Saw would be awesome, it would stop the headbanging on the bump at the bottom of the first drop. I wonder if they would have to fit it with the new trains though to make it possible (the ones with 3 rows and 2 seats per row) I don't think this would happen though as the small block sections at the bottom of the lift and station are probably not big enough for these. If this were to ever happen then I would do it when the Saw contract ends and promote the Eurofighter as being semi-new with the lap bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 It's fitted with OTSRs in line with manufacturer and insurer recommendation I'd imagine, and that probably will never change! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 To expand, instead of smacking your head on the softer restraignt bang on your head on next doors rock hard head Kevin and holtjammy16 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenVig Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 I actually like Saw's OTSR's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted February 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 /\ Agreed. It's not the OSR's on Saw that gives you the headache, its the ride itself. StevenVig 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippy Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 I'm no coaster genius but wouldn't having lap bars let people fall out? as it is quite a rough ride :S Laelda_95 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepie Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Lap-bar technology has become so sophisticated within the last 5 years or so. They are now able to support riders comfortably and safely throughout almost every coaster manoeuvre. Case in point- Blue Fire and Hollywood, Rip, Ride, Rockit. The B&M clamshell restraints, found on their hyper-coasters, are loved throughout the enthusiast community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 I think having lap bars would make the ride feel less imposing; the OTSRs make you feel more 'trapped' for example.Though I wouldn't mind a holding break! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Really? I think it could make the ride look more potentially dangerous and intimidating with minimal security holding you in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 I don't disagree, but I see the OTSRs as a way of being 'trapped in a mechanical device'. Lap bars would add the sense of danger, but in a different sense I'd say.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricBlll Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 It would make the ride far greater. Saw's restraints are very restrictive. Imagine flying around the track but with your arms waving about all the way... lovely! A great move for Eurofighters, but I don't think they would bother buying new cars for Saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 It would make the ride far greater. Saw's restraints are very restrictive. Imagine flying around the track but with your arms waving about all the way... lovely! A great move for Eurofighters, but I don't think they would bother buying new cars for Saw.I read somewhere on the Gerstlauer website that custom cars cost about £1 million or so each. ( I think) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Will never happen at Saw, would be such a huge waste of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Talking around the 8 million mark for new restraignts, inevitably it wouldnt happen. And if it was to happen not for a very long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Talking around the 8 million mark for new restraignts, inevitably it wouldnt happen. And if it was to happen not for a very long time.Considering the ride cost £12 million, your point is disregarded. Luke_A, Benin, Sheepie and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxthisgirlxox Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Lap-bar technology has become so sophisticated within the last 5 years or so. They are now able to support riders comfortably and safely throughout almost every coaster manoeuvre. Case in point- Blue Fire and Hollywood, Rip, Ride, Rockit. The B&M clamshell restraints, found on their hyper-coasters, are loved throughout the enthusiast community.I went on hollywood rip ride and rockit in november and yes the lap bar restraint system they have is AMAZING. it gives you such a greater feel of freedom and I felt incredibly safe just due to the sheer robustness of them. and of course picking from a selection of songs to have blasted out in the speakers just made it 100% more fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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