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A fairly interesting selection of merch there. I particularly like the look of the new Rangers Mug. 
 

Shame about Total Thorpe Park closing. I guess that makes TPM the last fansite purely dedicated with the possible exception of TTSP?

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16 hours ago, Matt Creek said:

Shame about Total Thorpe Park closing.

It's not just a shame - it's a devastating blow to the Thorpe Park community. I think TTP had pretty much the highest quality photos and in-depth reviews of the park from a fan site until they closed.

Now the best reviews on a website are http://www.s104638357.websitehome.co.uk/html/detonator_main.htm (which only does the flat rides).

My personal favourite review of the park however is: 

https://coasterforce.com/forums/threads/thorpe-park-trip-report-and-musings.43891/

 

But whilst the above 2 have glimpses of what made TTP great, again none of that comes close to the combined package that was TTP. 

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Thorpe Park tbh probably have the biggest challenge when it comes to social distancing measures given a large proportion of their target audience is teens and young adults who often travel in groups/ with friends. It's unlikely all of them will social distance in the event they actually do turn up and it'd also be extremely difficult for Thorpe to ensure members from different households  stay within their own household groups (including on rides as there's simply no way to check and people could turn up at the gates claiming they live together*).

For many they may decide not turning up is a better idea seeing as they can't ride together (because friends usually don't come from the same household).

This excludes the people that simply don't wish to surround themselves with hundreds/ thousands (?) of people of which some are potentially infected guests.

 

Reduced visitor numbers is fairly obviously going to happen this year even if the park hadn't put a cap on numbers anyway.

But I do wonder if Thorpe would be forced to re-close after an initial opening due to a potential prevalence of lack of social distancing going on in the park (media attention is already on how UK parks are attempting to enforce social distancing anyway as seen from posts in other threads).

 

*This would only be a problem if the current rules on COVID-19 remain the same when they open

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2020 merchandise preview as shown by Thorpe's very own free PR machine JS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvPmWjgukO8

He's also got a pre-2020 season video with all the behind-the-scenes closed season updates lined up just like he did just before they opened in 2019 (according to the end of the video).

Pretty much confirms that this channel has a special relation with the park in terms of accessing insider information.

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6 hours ago, Ivsetti said:

2020 merchandise preview as shown by Thorpe's very own free PR machine JS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvPmWjgukO8

He's also got a pre-2020 season video with all the behind-the-scenes closed season updates lined up just like he did just before they opened in 2019 (according to the end of the video).

Pretty much confirms that this channel has a special relation with the park in terms of accessing insider information.

hasnt that always been known?

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18 hours ago, Ivsetti said:

2020 merchandise preview as shown by Thorpe's very own free PR machine JS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvPmWjgukO8

He's also got a pre-2020 season video with all the behind-the-scenes closed season updates lined up just like he did just before they opened in 2019 (according to the end of the video).

Pretty much confirms that this channel has a special relation with the park in terms of accessing insider information.

 

Did you know that Thorpe Park Mania used to be Thorpe Parks free PR machine. 

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As long as someone is happy to never be critical about such a product (and presumably likes to SHOUT a lot as seems to be the trend on YouTube) then of course a company will use them for free PR.

 

I just won't ever listen to their opinion.

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Please forgive the terrible quality screenshots taken from my phone. I'm too lazy to watch the video again.

 

Jack's video shows some more new signage, which compliments the new entrance signage (which looks good):

 

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I like it! Fresh, vibrant and quite reflective of what Thorpe is really (and the sort of brand they should stick to).

 

And then there's this:

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One of the blandest, dullest entrance ways I've ever seen.

 

The removal of the rockwork and other Atlantis-esque, no matter how decaying it really was, creates such a boring, flat look. The poles holding up the Dome sign feel in the way and yet invisible at the same time.

 

I don't know how common an opinion it is, but I liked the Atlantis theme and still think it worked with the park today (what with the Port / Basecamp / Shark vibe). Sure, it was dated and falling apart, but it had some life and soul in it. After this and the black panels of blackness on the inside, it now feels like a run-down Butlins...

 

Shame, as the other signage we've seen so far is good.

 

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Looks more underwhelming than a deprived shopping centre, let alone a theme park. 
 

Sure the Atlantis theming was cheesy, dated and possibly made the place look like a Blackpool arcade. But it gave the place a fun, characterful appearing and like Josh said still fitted the park. Sadly it’s the norm more times than not for one step forwards two/three back, but it is what it is! I guess.

 

The other signage looks alright I guess.

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Reminds me of a sort of bowling place/ entrance to a shopping centre if the text was changed to something-shopping like. Would be nice if The Dome had its own theme (like all the rides do) which would probably make it a better entrance than what we have here.

Given Merlin's return-driven mindset though no-one turns up at thorpe for the dome so it probably makes sense why they'd spend so little on it from a financial pov.

25 minutes ago, Matt Creek said:

norm more times than not for one step forwards

The park hasn't really had a major step forward since 2012 though.

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I swear just before the 2019 season started we were told through another one of Sickstone’s pre-season videos that the Dome’s interior was going to be be completed in two “phases”; presumably the first part ripping out the old Atlantis theming early last year, and for 2020 by modernising the interior?

 

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Yeeeeaaaahhhhh, something tells me that idea might have been scrapped. So we are now permanently left with a poor man’s version of the Alton Towers Dungeon - black walls galore.

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42 minutes ago, Marhelorpe said:

I swear just before the 2019 season started we were told through another one of Sickstone’s pre-season videos that the Dome’s interior was going to be be completed in two “phases”; presumably the first part ripping out the old Atlantis theming early last year, and for 2020 by modernising the interior?

 

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Yeeeeaaaahhhhh, something tells me that idea might have been scrapped. So we are now permanently left with a poor man’s version of the Alton Towers Dungeon - black walls galore.

All with the old flooring paint lovely and brightly shown creating the perfect mish mash of an identity! Love it! 

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20 hours ago, JoshC. said:

I don't know how common an opinion it is, but I liked the Atlantis theme and still think it worked with the park today (what with the Port / Basecamp / Shark vibe). Sure, it was dated and falling apart, but it had some life and soul in it. After this and the black panels of blackness on the inside, it now feels like a run-down Butlins...

I think it looked great for years when Thorpe still had some of that family theme park vibe!

Since then they've tried to slick back and make the park more minimal, turn the dome into more of a club, so I understand them removing it. But they've revamped it in the cheapest possible, dullest way. There is literally no design to it, just removing all character. As always "phase 2" never arrives, "phase 2" is code for "not happening".

The old Atlantis dome at its best with the underwater vibe was really good, the scenery was great, although it got a lot removed and beaten up over the years. I think it only seemed dated because of the different direction the park was going in.

You could picture it fitting right into mid 90s family Thorpe really well, instead of 2010s era Thorpe. I'm surprised it was such a late addition actually! (2000 ish wasnt it?)

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3 hours ago, Glitch said:

Interesting to see a vlogger concerned that rides weren't testing during their 30min walk down Monks, park therefore must be far behind Alton Towers in terms of readiness for July 4th.

TBF it doesn't look like they are ready, there was nothing at all in prep for covid 19 measures in that JS video only filmed a few days ago.

 

But I suppose on the other hand you could argue that in fairness it's more sensible to hold off all the signage/markings what with the high chance of  the measurement dropping to 1m. Would have been a pain if they'd printed and put signage up with 2m guidelines to then have to redo it all if it does drop to 1m. 

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This looks awful.  The Dome always looked amazing as "Port Atlantis", now it just looks run-down.

 

Why would they remove all that fantastic theming and leave it looking so dull and bland?  Unless it was dangerous or falling down, I can't understand it.

 

See this parallels with what's happened at PB over the last 5/10 years, removal of theming and "fun" features in favour of a bland, corporate look.

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The rides were ready for the park to open in March, engineering will have been in throughout making sure they remain ready for when they are able to open. 
 

No idea about staff but I expect as soon as the government give a firm date they will quickly get them back in and ready.

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15 hours ago, MarkC said:

Also worth noting, none of the staff have been invited back for training. Does seem like they’re leaving it till the last minute 

 

They aren't going to bring staff in until they absolutely know they can open on the 4th. It's crazy that this is two weeks away now and the government have left it so late for these companies to prepare. 

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The park do have staff back, off furlough, either working on park or working from home. These are largely managers who are preparing as best as they can with the information at their disposal.

 

In terms of actual training, not much really needs to be done. Thorpe were 2 days away from having their first guests before Lockdown. They'll have had a solid foundation to open the park in terms of staff being trained to operate the park. So in theory (and hopefully in practice), staff only need a short period of time to re-acquaint themselves with their job roles.

 

They'll also need to learn about what the park is doing re. coronavirus and what has changed in their roles. The issue is that staff can't learn about that until the park gets government advice, as has been said above.

 

 

For reference, I don't think any of the UK Merlin parks have their seasonal staff in, outside of Chessington/Towers who will have some for their current open days. The parks aren't leaving it till the last minute, they've been forced to wait until the last minute.

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1 hour ago, JoshC. said:

In terms of actual training, not much really needs to be done. Thorpe were 2 days away from having their first guests before Lockdown. They'll have had a solid foundation to open the park in terms of staff being trained to operate the park. So in theory (and hopefully in practice), staff only need a short period of time to re-acquaint themselves with their job roles.

 

Really? These staff haven't worked at these attractions for three months (nearly a whole closed season fact fans) and some will have never worked with guests before. Thats a lot of pressure to get your rides teams up to standard in 13 days. 

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