JoshC. Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 People mention about how Slammer is the last Sky Swat as though it's important. But Thorpe don't advertise it like that at all. Only enthusiasts know it's the only one in the world, and probably are the only ones who care at the moment. Sure, Merlin have a particularly liking for Firsts and Onlys, but if they're not advertising it, then it means nothing. Kerfuffle and pognoi 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HermanTheGerman Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I think Samurai is almost certainly on the way out. Its just so unreliable these days; you can tell it wasn't meant to last the sixteen years that it has. Its meant to be a fair ground ride damn it! I'd be glad to see it go, its not like it runs decent settings either... Slammer on the other hand, well, that's just a massive shame. I'd love for it to last forever, but that surely wont happen. I reckon they'll be seeing how much they can improve the reliability before they start giving it a greater marketing focus. And if after all this work (adding new supports etc.) its still breaking down, then well, I doubt it'll out live Samurai... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchada04 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 From a park perspective: Slammer costs more to maintain and continually repair as undoubtedly it has been more reliable over its life than Samurai plus it is unique, S&S don't make them anymore so don't supply parts therefore the park have to get parts specially made which takes time and costs more money. Samurai is also more popular, shifts more of a queue, takes up less room and probably costs less to run an hour as it doesn't involve compressing air. It also doesn't have to be shut half way through the day to be checked for cracks etc. Neither ride is perfect, but logically Slammer should go before Samurai (ideally they'll both go and we'll get one reliable good replacement- note it doesn't have to be a flat.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I don't want either to go, but I still think that Slammer should stay, it offers a unique experience (something that should be advertised more) and is definitely one of the scariest rides in the UK in the eyes of the general public. Samurai should be replaced with a brand new Top Scan IMO, but that's never going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Allgood Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I think the next major problem the ride has that's it! It's gone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I think the next major problem the ride has that's it! It's gone... If I had a penny for every time I heard this, I wouldn't have needed to take out a loan for my tuition fees... Benin, paige and Celia Mae 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Teller Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Why are they stopping half into the day to check it for cracks? If people are willing to go on a ride that has to be checked daily for cracks fair plate to them, on the other hand, if Merlin were to offer S&S a large amount of money why wouldn't they manafacture one more sky swat? Say slammer originally cost £3,000,000 they should offer S&S £5,000,000, if Thorpe listened to the public and scrapped Samurai and got a new, bigger and better sky swat that would be a good resolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Another one will not be built as it has turned out to be a deeply flawed design. A new one would have many of the same issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Teller Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 But they could resolve the issues and the flaws and make a sky swat 2.0 with the failures from there previous productions as a lesson learned and replace the parts that are faulty and re design them so they last longer, they should just build a better one with more man hours and better parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 S&S gave up on it, I highly doubt any other company would want to go for a similar design, as using hydraulics instead of air pressure would probably result in even more of an unreliable mess... Or at least it would still have the potential to suffer from the same issues as the original... As always, every year, the best thing for the park to do would be to scrap it and replace it with, well ANYTHING... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Teller Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 If they were to scrap it, and Samurai whilst they were at it they should really think about getting a woodie, it would be a great addition to the park, or they could remove Mr. Money as well and make something like the big one at Blackpool pleasure beach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 The problems with the skyswat are near impossible to fix. There is no way to fix the strain on the beam without using materials used for aircraft wings. Which would push the cost way up. Samurai is the one that needs to leave first. Jax Teller 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobF Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 The best option for a sky swat design would be to use a pit so ultimately halving the complexity of the ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 The best option for a sky swat design would be to use a pit so ultimately halving the complexity of the ride Definitely reduces the complexity of the ride, but then means you have to build a ~40ft deep pit to house it, which is expensive and, in many cases, impractical. The sky swat design just never really worked out; it's just one of those things really. Sure, they could spend a whole lot of money to improve it and create Sky Swat 2.0, but the concept of it just doesn't really work. The rides themselves aren't particularly popular either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Not sure about anyone else, but I haven't seen any work being done to Slammer recently but seems like they're working on it today! Hopefully they will get it open soon. Also noticed the last time I was there they had the Slammer sign ready to be put up, don't think they bothered to put that up last year when it was open. (Photo from Themeparkworldwides facebook page) I really don't want Slammer go, but I can see it going as soon as possible and I do understand why. It must cost them a ridiculous amount of money for maintenance, has to close midday for checks and even when it is open it never seems to be popular. Not sure if that's due to it being out of the way, and people not knowing it exists? I don't see why the park don't advertise it as the 'worlds only' or whatever, never even see pictures on facebook when it is open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 It is a bit of a joke, this is the fourth season running I believe that it has spent months closed. As much as I enjoy the ride, if it's causing all these problems then is it really worth keeping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 It is a bit of a joke, this is the fourth season running I believe that it has spent months closed. As much as I enjoy the ride, if it's causing all these problems then is it really worth keeping? You misspelt eleventh. Celia Mae and pluk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 You misspelt eleventh.Has it seriously not done a full season in eleven years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Has it seriously not done a full season in eleven years? Might be my memory playing tricks on me a bit / over-exaggerating some downtime, but I pretty certain it hasn't done a full season without being down for at least a month or two. Coaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Teller Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Sorry to bump, any news on slammer? Pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 If there's any activity or sign of opening, there will be a flurry of activity, mark my words. Didn't it open around July last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pognoi Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Around about then. Yesterday it was making funny noises and there were engineers working on it, however none of the main cables on the towers seemed to be in place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Didn't it open around July last year? And last year it was moving/testing on AP day. God knows when it's going to open this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pognoi Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 If at all ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 It may be a nice ride but getting it fixed just seems pointless to me. The same thing happens every year and I'm stunned they still put time and money into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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