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Reporter rides Icon with mask (starts at 3:24 mark in video).

As it can be clearly seen, face masks/ other coverings and roller coasters do not mix or potentially even give the safety one would assume it does from spreading coughs/ sneezes etc. seeing as it simply doesn't stay on in the required position for maximum effect.

Therefore, one wonders as to the purpose of wearing masks on these rides (also considering they're a potential choking hazard) and as pretty much the entire forum agrees on, what protections from someone sneezing at the front of a train can parks afford to those restrained at the back. 

Granted the reporter claims the mask was slightly loose but not every guest will have a tight-fitted mask.

I think the biggest shame is that not a single park in the world commissioned a scientific study as to the effectiveness of spread of COVID-19 from sneezing whilst a ride is travelling at various speeds in motion (because it'd come out as negative for parks?).

 

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Finally got up to Blackpool yesterday and I will do a blog thingy when I've recovered from getting my brain rattled around on Infusion but I have to say.....Valhalla - bloody brilliant.  Ok I've not b

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Pleasure Beach was awesome this weekend.   Big One open all day yesterday and most of today even with some fairly high winds, 2 trains on some of the coasters and a lovely atmosphere on park

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I mean, she wasn't really wearing it properly, so it was bound to fall. But it raises a great point of how many people actually know how to wear one properly, as you say.

 

From what I've seen at parks across Europe, and from people I've spoken to, you can easily wear masks on rides and have them stay in place the entire time. And let's not forget people have done this in Asia before coronavirus anyways.

 

1 hour ago, Ivsetti said:

I think the biggest shame is that not a single park in the world commissioned a scientific study as to the effectiveness of spread of COVID-19 from sneezing whilst a ride is travelling at various speeds in motion (because it'd come out as negative for parks?).

It's not something that any park could really do. To commission such a study would be very expensive. It would be difficult to find people who could do this (ie - are properly qualified to give an opinion and conduct any research) as well as people who would (anyone who could would likely be putting their efforts into something which has wider appeal / more useful to the public).

 

Also, such a study would be insanely difficult. People are less likely to cough or sneeze whilst a roller coaster is in motion, so that means you need to focus on studying people's screams and breathing. It's less known how droplets spread during these situation, as generally speaking there's less droplets and they're less regularly spread out. You then need to take into account the speed of a ride, direction of travel, etc. As these things are ever-changing, it means you have to do millions more calculations compared to, say, how you'd model it for someone riding a bike.

 

As a result, any study that could be conducted would likely just reaffirm the benefits of wearing a mask (in that it would use the same ideas as in any other study of motion, from riding a bike to standing still), and demonstrate how a suitably fitted mask can stay on whilst riding a ride. And why bother with a study to show that?

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So I was on park recently and got a few rides in on the Big One.

I found near the front to be kinda meh, the back to be God awful.

 

However, I found the 2nd and 3rd to back to be absolutely fantastic and so immensely fast (and much less rough than the back), potentially my favourite coaster experience in the UK. Did anyone else have a similar experience with this?

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I went to Blackpool for the first ever time a little over a week ago. Some thoughts...

 

-Icon was fun, but not great. Launches are probably the weakest I've done. Only one good airtime moment. The layout is well integrated around the other rides, but not particularly interesting.

-Big One is a big old meh. Did nothing for me.

-Grand National is a national treasure and by far the best attraction at the park in my opinion. Opinion is likely swayed because I only rode it in back row which is probably a smoother seat, but still.

-Was spited by Nick Streak. 😓

-Park feels like it needs a water ride which gets you suitably wet. The open water rides looked too wet imo, and obviously Valhalla has a reputation for a reason.

-I liked the dark rides.

 

The Pleasure Beach itself is nice enough for what it is. Not my cup of tea really, but I had fun all things considered. Blackpool as a town is even tackier than I imagined though. Eurgh.

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13 hours ago, JoshC. said:

I went to Blackpool for the first ever time a little over a week ago. Some thoughts...

 

-Icon was fun, but not great. Launches are probably the weakest I've done. Only one good airtime moment. The layout is well integrated around the other rides, but not particularly interesting.

-Big One is a big old meh. Did nothing for me.

-Grand National is a national treasure and by far the best attraction at the park in my opinion. Opinion is likely swayed because I only rode it in back row which is probably a smoother seat, but still.

-Was spited by Nick Streak. 😓

-Park feels like it needs a water ride which gets you suitably wet. The open water rides looked too wet imo, and obviously Valhalla has a reputation for a reason.

-I liked the dark rides.

 

The Pleasure Beach itself is nice enough for what it is. Not my cup of tea really, but I had fun all things considered. Blackpool as a town is even tackier than I imagined though. Eurgh.

 

1. Yes. Absolutely agree with the Icon point. I really fail to see the hype behind it at all. If I wanted to go through a load of turns in a slow and boring manner, I would get in a Go Kart driven by @Matt Creek

 

2. Big one is a major mixed bag to me. Yes it has a great drop, yes its a legend in the UK industry and yes it gives nice views of the park and area. Its just dull post drop though. I much prefer Magnum at Cedar Point.

 

3. One has not lived until they have a back row on Grand National!! Its not the pleasure beach without it. A true life altering experience if you have a rough ride mind you xD

 

4. Shame about streak!! Its real good fun.

 

5. I do genuinely believe that when Valhalla returns, the wetness of it will be dialled right down. The drops themself never really got the riders that wet, it was more the effects like the water vortex and the hammers that whammed down next to the boat and shot water up into it. I highly doubt the Vortex will return when the ride is back open.

 

6. Cant go wrong with the Blackpool dark rides!! :)

 

7. Blackpool is indeed a bit of a dive!!

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I miss Wild Mouse lol. Lowkey the best coaster in the UK when it was open.

I remember Revolution being great though, even if it was brutal, the airtime made the ride great. I think BPB have a decent lineup of coasters, I haven't ridden ICON yet though. But certainly nothing on Alton. Avalanche and the Woodies slap though, Avalanche makes other Bobsled coasters look really boring in comparison. I need to get back there. 

 

Agreed on Big One though, its a kiddie coaster after the drop. You could probably check tinder and update your Facebook status while on it, its that boring.

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Has Valhalla’s reopening been delayed?

 

The short Answer

Yes

 

The long Answer

Most likely. Whilst the park could well still reopen this for the 2021 season, it all goes down to how much work is still left to do and how quickly they can fulfill it,especially with current conditions. 
 

The pandemic/lockdown will have caused major delays, so it’s hard to say when we could see Valhalla reopen. Maybe Summer, possibly Autoumn? Could well be 2022 now given everything.

 

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1 hour ago, Benin said:

Dunno why it could possibly have been delayed, though I'm sure some enthusiasts will use it as a stick to beat the park with.

 

They'll hate the refurbishment anyway. Thats how enthusiast circles work anyway, decry something for becoming run down, get their hopes up when it closes to be redone then hate the new version. It's Enthusiast 101.

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4 hours ago, Mark9 said:

They'll hate the refurbishment anyway. Thats how enthusiast circles work anyway, decry something for becoming run down, get their hopes up when it closes to be redone then hate the new version. It's Enthusiast 101.

Why should something not be decried for getting run down, then why should enthusiasts not be enthusiastic when something closes to be redone? That could go for guests, not just enthusiasts.

And have there been any genuinely great revamps on rides in recent years, where something has gotten better than when it first opened?

Valhalla might be brilliant when it reopens for all we know! But if it's a disappointment, then it's a disappointment. Nobody knows yet.

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13 hours ago, SteveJ said:

Why should something not be decried for getting run down, then why should enthusiasts not be enthusiastic when something closes to be redone? That could go for guests, not just enthusiasts.

And have there been any genuinely great revamps on rides in recent years, where something has gotten better than when it first opened?

Valhalla might be brilliant when it reopens for all we know! But if it's a disappointment, then it's a disappointment. Nobody knows yet.

 

I've been in this game for a long time. I know how this all works.

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Me too, that's why I just wait to be pleasantly surprised if something does turn out enjoyable. I don't get my hopes up when each new random thing is announced and wait to experience it myself with an open mind. For all I know Valhalla might be great when it reopens, we have no idea. Or it might be another dodgy 'TLC' type revamp

I do think it's one much loved dark ride that had plenty potential for re-working without losing what people enjoyed about it in the first place, so I wonder how far they're going with it.

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On 11/12/2020 at 6:39 PM, SteveJ said:

And have there been any genuinely great revamps on rides in recent years, where something has gotten better than when it first opened?
 


Hadn’t really thought about it like that tbf but I’d say Gruffalo, Tiger Rock, Walking Dead The Ride are all good examples of a revamp improving the ride. That said I guess you could argue all 3 were better in their original form (Maybe not XNWO!)
 

Fingers crossed Valhalla is a similar improvement!

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Hadn’t really thought about it like that tbf but I’d say Gruffalo, Tiger Rock, Walking Dead The Ride are all good examples of a revamp improving the ride. That said I guess you could argue all 3 were better in their original form (Maybe not XNWO!)
 

Fingers crossed Valhalla is a similar improvement!

I have to be honest, I strongly disagree with this.

 

The Gruffalo River Ride Adventure is, for the most part, very well done and an improvement on the version of Bubbleworks that immediately preceded it, but only because that had fallen into poor condition.

 

Tiger Rock however, aside from the new show-piece tiger head, which already looks tired and dated, they completely ruined the theming after the first drop and the majority of other features now look out of place or in desperate need of a paint job.  I much preferred Dragon Falls.

 

Walking Dead: The Ride too, ruins the ride in my opinion.  It isn't suited to the hardware at all and it was much more enjoyable and fun to ride as X IMO.

 

Valhalla does not need to become a lifeless bland IP-driven investment, and I thoroughly hope it isn't in any way similar to Gruffalo, Tiger Rock or Walking Dead!

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16 hours ago, Coaster said:

I have to be honest, I strongly disagree with this.

 

The Gruffalo River Ride Adventure is, for the most part, very well done and an improvement on the version of Bubbleworks that immediately preceded it, but only because that had fallen into poor condition.

 

Tiger Rock however, aside from the new show-piece tiger head, which already looks tired and dated, they completely ruined the theming after the first drop and the majority of other features now look out of place or in desperate need of a paint job.  I much preferred Dragon Falls.

 

Walking Dead: The Ride too, ruins the ride in my opinion.  It isn't suited to the hardware at all and it was much more enjoyable and fun to ride as X IMO.

 

Valhalla does not need to become a lifeless bland IP-driven investment, and I thoroughly hope it isn't in any way similar to Gruffalo, Tiger Rock or Walking Dead!

 

I agree with the above

 

Bubbleworks in 1990 > Gruffalo > Bubbleworks in 2016.

 

Yes, Gruffalo is an improvement on what immediately preceded in, but that doesn't make up for years of disrepair.

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It's easy to improve on what immediately preceeded though because most rides now have come into in such bad condition that literally any DIY lick of paint feels better than nothing.

Valhalla really needs restoring or if it gets a big redesign then improving on when it first opened, which I think it has potential for without losing what people enjoyed about it in the first place.

(and I agree to be honest I thought Tiger Rock and Room on the Broome were like 1 step forward, 2 steps back)

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The thing that really made Valhalla was it's extremes and it's scale. Assuming the ride layout is largely unchanged that should remain solid. The extreme wetness we can live with being toned down, but if it also loses its extremes of temperature and spectacle as I fear with the expense of those effects being well documented it's not going to get a good reception, and rightly so. 

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