pluk Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 7 hours ago, ChessingtonSam said: The Birmingham Mail says it will sit amid CBeebies Land.. We don't really know yet Like whay Stretcy said, The Birmingham Mail don't know more than the planners and Towers themselves... we do really know already. I'm sure any significant activity in the area will be the start of them getting ready for next year's new CBeebies ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Anybody know why the Smiler was shut all day Wednesday? There was loads of unhappy people around it lol, we got on one of the last runs before the park closed on Tuesday and the station didn't arf stink of burning motors (think it reopened today but didn't go on park). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeah Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 36 minutes ago, Ian-S said: Anybody know why the Smiler was shut all day Wednesday? There was loads of unhappy people around it lol, we got on one of the last runs before the park closed on Tuesday and the station didn't arf stink of burning motors (think it reopened today but didn't go on park). Half the rides where closed on Wednesday lol. Also literally every ride today was 15 minutes apart from Smiler which was 15-30 according to the app. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob666 Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) Smiler was walk on via the single riders queue this afternoon, I'm very pleased to say! Digging of foundations has started on cbeebies hotel, I stumbled onto the building site after walking up to King Ina's rocks, finally searched them out after years of hunting. Lovely but wet afternoon at the towers. Thirteen broken again. M6 as crap as ever. Edited July 29, 2016 by rob666 spellin' pluk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 12 hours ago, ChessingtonSam said: Half the rides where closed on Wednesday lol. Also literally every ride today was 15 minutes apart from Smiler which was 15-30 according to the app. Yes even the monorail broke down too on Wednesday, it was not a good day for breakdowns. I had to laugh, or scratch my head in disbelief at one point, Galatica has an hour queue, Nemesis was walk on, so was Rita and 13 had a long queue too, even my wife who doesn't do coasters couldn't work out the logic in that (she asked why the better rides had no queues and the crap ones did), meanwhile we just ignored her and ran back to the Nemesis queue again lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobF Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Old rides unfortunatly dont have the same hype drive to jo public as newer ones do, plus Nemesis is a great throughput monster.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L7123456 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 10 hours ago, RobF said: Old rides unfortunatly dont have the same hype drive to jo public as newer ones do, plus Nemesis is a great throughput monster.... But then Colossus at Thorpe is the oldest coaster there, at the queue is always longest on busy days... Back to Towers though, Nemesis has brilliant throughput and therefore the queue is reduced, whereas Rita's throughput isn't all that great, and therefore the queue is extended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 Fish and X are older than Colossus though... Plus the throughput isn't great either, facts are fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobF Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 9 hours ago, MilesK said: But then Colossus at Thorpe is the oldest coaster there, at the queue is always longest on busy days... Back to Towers though, Nemesis has brilliant throughput and therefore the queue is reduced, whereas Rita's throughput isn't all that great, and therefore the queue is extended. Colssus is A half the age of nemesis B there is a difference of near 500 people per hour between Colossus and nemesis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 236 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 The statistical throughputs for coasters are: Nemesis and Inferno will achieve around 1100 -1200 people on a good day whilst Colossus will struggle to reach 1000. Rita's is probably around 1000 on a good day which is practically the same as Stealth. Smiler is around 950 with Galactica probably struggling on 600 PPH in its current state. X probably gets around 400 PPH in its sorry state of 2 train ops with Fish probably getting 500 on a good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planenut Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 But don't you get a feeling of power when you stand up again, only to adjust your clothing - "oh, waiting for me? sorry!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pognoi Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Resolution to this whole discussion: Never question Stretchy. stretchy and Kerfuffle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretchy Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 44 minutes ago, wegloo said: Resolution to this whole discussion: Never question Stretchy. Can I modify this.. Question everything.. but always take heed of the facts (and any rubbish stretchy comes out with ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Is Smiler still on 3 trains? Probably closer to 600/700pph if it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobF Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 On 2 August 2016 at 9:39 PM, Matt Creek said: The statistical throughputs for coasters are: Nemesis and Inferno will achieve around 1100 -1200 people on a good day whilst Colossus will struggle to reach 1000. Rita's is probably around 1000 on a good day which is practically the same as Stealth. Smiler is around 950 with Galactica probably struggling on 600 PPH in its current state. X probably gets around 400 PPH in its sorry state of 2 train ops with Fish probably getting 500 on a good day. Nemesis has an extra row over inferno. So 36ish dispatches an hour gives nemesis over 140 people more per hour Colossus realistic throughput is 700-800 due to a lack of a decent brake run. The previous train cannot be dispatched until its backed up at the station because the ride blocks out and stops on the lift ...... In theory the ride can do more but the block system and lack on 2 sections of brakes due to the last inline is a big issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 10 hours ago, Coaster Jamie said: Is Smiler still on 3 trains? Probably closer to 600/700pph if it is. Last week it was yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celia Mae Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Alton Towers do have four Smiler trains that they can run now though, so maybe they didn't think demand was enough... that or one of them was being worked on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 236 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Didn't Smiler used to have five? I'm guessing since the incident they've only been able to replace one of the trains. if the throughput is 700 typically, it's still doing a better job than Galactica which struggles getting 600 PPH on a good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celia Mae Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 22 minutes ago, Matt Creek said: Didn't Smiler used to have five? I'm guessing since the incident they've only been able to replace one of the trains. if the throughput is 700 typically, it's still doing a better job than Galactica which struggles getting 600 PPH on a good day. Yeah it did. I think the idea was get one more train as quickly as possible in case they need to run it in busy season, and maybe order another one after when budget allows? Also I dont get this whole thing about Galactica's throughput being so destroyed, whenever I've been (like three times since its opened and I've ridden it multiple times each visit) there's been barely any stacking on three trains (if any at all) and a lot of the time they're actually getting it out faster than needed and its had to slow on the lift hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 I think early on they were still getting used to it, I noticed in the two times we've been this year they were noticably quicker on the second visit, although the girl wasn't too pleased with me for putting the headset on too early the second time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 I maybe wrong but I don't beleve that The Smiler has ran on 4 trains this season, despite it getting a lengthy queue so can only assume it won't run 4 trains any time soon - even if they have 4 they can operate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 I think Smiler started the season with 3 trains, the (new) fourth train only just turning up recently, but I wouldn't be surprised if the park are tentative about it... I can imagine onlookers going mental if there were two trains on the track because people are thick... yeah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchada04 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 It has run 4 trains I think. And I've heard a fifth is on site, and while it'll never run 5 they'll have a spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Benin said: I think Smiler started the season with 3 trains, the (new) fourth train only just turning up recently, but I wouldn't be surprised if the park are tentative about it... I can imagine onlookers going mental if there were two trains on the track because people are thick... They still run Smiler like they used to, they were definitely duelling during my visit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeah Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Mitchada04 said: It has run 4 trains I think. And I've heard a fifth is on site, and while it'll never run 5 they'll have a spare. A fourth turned up just a couple of weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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