Geo Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 From Thorpe Park mania facebookCoasterUpdates.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 The ride itself certainly has the biggest impact though. By your logic Josh (although I see what you're getting at, and agree with you), Saw should seem as intimidating as this, and it just doesn't That is true; didn't think of that actually. Though I guess where Swarm is out on the open, and has a much bigger lift hill (as in length, not just height), that will probably going to cause a lot more fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_C Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Looks like a really tight zero g roll :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mah boi Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 I wonder how long it will be till they put up the other supports for the zero-g roll. Last thing I remember, they were still pouring some footers for the rest of the zero-g supports, from what I saw on some pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidders Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 What I love about this ride is that, even in it's most fundamental state, it's already passed the interaction test. B&M and Thorpe (and Gardaland, for the matter) know the opportunities that lie in wake for Wing-Riders and the potential proximity to their supports. As Mark said earlier in this topic, there's a near miss for the word "Go" - as soon as the train disembarks the lift hill, the right side will have a foot-chopper support. Further on in the circuit, there's a foot-chopper for both sides in the Zero-G roll; one for the right side in the inclined loop, which is sustained all the way through the helix. The corkscrew should have awesome foot-choppers on it as well, and all because the train protrudes so far out at the sides.For illustration of my point, look at the first inversion on Raptor, and how the support acts as a foot-chopper:Second inversion is similar:And now the helix. Observe how the supports double-up as foot-choppers:And that's just a few examples of where the supports could play a far more important role in the ride experience than one might assume! mah boi and Smidget 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_C Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 On the last photo, is that where the brake trims are on raptor...on the hill going into the helix? Because on pov videos you can barely feel it, yet on offrides you can really hear it. Hopefully our trim is either inactive or unnoticable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 If it's like Raptor, it will be un-noticeable/improve the ride experience even more as dashing around those elements would not have been anywhere near as effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javs Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 there's a near miss for the word "Go" - as soon as the train disembarks the lift hill, the right side will have a foot-chopper support.Yeah, although at 3mph that wont really be a shocker! I must admit, I am not a fan of using the rollercoaster supports as a near miss event. That seems to be how a lot of American coasters do it, but I think it is far more effective with terrain and theming like on Nemesis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Yeah, although at 3mph that wont really be a shocker! Considering how heavy the trains are and how quickly they pick up speed, I would put a lot on the line to say that near miss element will be more effective then you suggest. I kind of get where you are coming from in terms of preferring terrain to height but.. Swarm will have both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidders Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 I must admit, I am not a fan of using the rollercoaster supports as a near miss event. That seems to be how a lot of American coasters do it, but I think it is far more effective with terrain and theming like on Nemesis.To further what Mark said, I don't see what's so "American" about using supports as near-miss elements. Gardaland's Raptor is the only other B&M Wing-Rider in existence and can therefore be the only real comparison for what the near-miss supports be will like (being the Arrow Dynamics and Intamin coasters position there riders above and to the sides of the track, whereas as B&M positions them lower). And don't forget, The Swarm will also have a mint's worth pumped into the themeing department so hopefully the combination of both will be very effective. Either way, we get interaction so I'm not complaining! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Station is... MASSIVE! Mark9, UnderItAll and mbizzle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraX Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 I don't know that it is when you put in the enormous train and the batching gates either side. Looking forward to see how it works as I assume it will batch just like Raptor.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mah boi Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Blimey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Massive station is... MASSIVE!Massive station is... MASSIVE! 50% maintenance shed.Awesome pic though, and a view you won't get even once the ride is open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Massive station is... MASSIVE! 50% maintenance shed.Awesome pic though, and a view you won't get even once the ride is open.Unless you're being evacuated.Which, you probably will.Noting here that the harness line hasn't been installed yet.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Was referring to the height of the building site, and it will be massive if Raptor's is anything to go by.I am rather curious as to how the batching will work, as we won't do it Italian style, just a bloke stood at two chains it is then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cernuschi Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Nice to see that the maintenance bay is going to be hidden by themeing by the looks of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Nice to see that the maintenance bay is going to be hidden by themeing by the looks of it.Very true. Like this a lot. As long as the queue doesn't get a big old view of a shed it should be fabulous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mer Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Lovely. So have they added any more track today? Personally that's all I'm excited about atm!I want to see a completed zero g roll! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smidget Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Same here Mer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Lovely. So have they added any more track today? Personally that's all I'm excited about atm!I want to see a completed zero g roll!Lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mah boi Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 From theme park james. Shows the rest of the zero-g supports going up.Also an update today from theme UK.http://themeuk.net/LC12_Thorpe_ParkPG2.htmlLooks like the in-line twist is being prepared. Pic taken from Theme UK update. Sidders and Ryan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 ^ Thats the remainder of the Zero G roll, they assembled it on the floor but due to setbacks where unable to hoist into position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Source: Theme UK's update.(appoligies for not adding credit) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamY Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 The more I look from that angle, the more I struggle to imagine the plane in there. On the plans it looked like there would be much more space between the bottom of the drop and the end of the entrance bridge. Perhaps it's just the angle; I'll check it out tomorrow but right now I'm struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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