Knightknuckle Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Is it just me or do alot of people on here overlook the fact that alot of thorpe parks theming is very good? It might not have the beautiful scenary of Alton Towers and some of the other theme parks around but in terms of ride theming they are right up there with the best of them!I think the theming for Colossus, Inferno, and particularly SAW are very good. And I believe this ride will be no exception! mbizzle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maty22 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I dont believe you guys. Moaning about the quality of themeing. Have you forgotten SAW?Of course the themeing will not be as good as towers because the location does not allow this. I mean unless a water ride comes in they cannot utilise the location.Loggers leap in my opinion is fantastic. Whereas the location of alton with the"forests etc." means they can do better . mbizzle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraX Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I find it so strange when people rave about SAW. Ok, the building looks ok, but outside is just rubble and inside is not much really, a HUGE missed opportunity. Both SAW and Thirteen are from the same 'cannon' and I think very poor on theming. Raptor so far, is the best thing I have seen from Merlin (hopefully Krake, once we see the detail) in a long time, if not at all. My only bug with LC12 and Thorpe's theming is that once again they're going for the broken down, old, tatty look. Which is basicly them saying, hey lets theme it to look old and tatty and then, we'll never have to worry about it's up keep! Thorpe Park is widely known to be tatty enough as it is.Regardless, the scale of this addition is huge. Not only because it's B&M. A new island, toilets, I just hope they're prepared for the amount of people that will be sqeezing over the new Fish bridge to the island! Sheepie, alexander and Sidders 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maty22 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 "Raving about SAW?" I'm sure you where too! Just take a look at the SAW topic. Compared to anything before it, it is amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraX Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I assume that you have been to other theme parks and seen other themed rides?I was excited about SAW and it's 'mysterious indoor section'. Although, I think you'd be crazy to say how amazing it is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I dont believe you guys. Moaning about the quality of themeing. Have you forgotten SAW?Of course the themeing will not be as good as towers because the location does not allow this. I mean unless a water ride comes in they cannot utilise the location.Loggers leap in my opinion is fantastic. Whereas the location of alton with the"forests etc." means they can do better .What does that mean, "the location won't allow it" Thorpe is completely flat, essentially a blank canvas. Like you use Loggers Leap but ignoring the fact the building is wooden and it plays western music, the theming is pretty much non-existant.Could you build upon the idea that because Alton is in a forest it can theme rides better please. Don't quite follow what you mean by that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollerross11 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Is it just me or do alot of people on here overlook the fact that alot of thorpe parks theming is very good? It might not have the beautiful scenary of Alton Towers and some of the other theme parks around but in terms of ride theming they are right up there with the best of them!I think the theming for Colossus, Inferno, and particularly SAW are very good. And I believe this ride will be no exception!You’re right I have been to loads of parks, yes some are better e.g. Europa Park and Universal. However Thorpe is way above Six Flags and many other parks all they have mainly are "Car Park coasters", my parents complain about the lack of theming in Six Flags compared to Thorpe. Also with the ruin down theme if it’s a one they can do best and also is more market appealing to Teenagers than I don’t know fantasy castles and Space (which has been overdone) then Thorpe are clearly going to use the more market appelaing, there a business you know there appealing to the mass not niche (some of us). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Why can smaller parks theme their rides better than Merlin though?They should have less budget, yet we get things like Fluch von Novgorod, Mystery Mine, Raptor Attack... Hell even Troublesome Trucks is more themed than Saw... Jord 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPDave Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Why can smaller parks theme their rides better than Merlin though?They should have less budget, yet we get things like Fluch von Novgorod, Mystery Mine, Raptor Attack... Hell even Troublesome Trucks is more themed than Saw...Well TP can theme their rides as well as those listed, they real question is why they don't. I just don't think there is enough drive to really place any strong emphasis on the theme any more. If the vast majority of visitors don't really care too much about good theming and stories (or notice them when they appear) and there aren't any huge parks down the road threatening to steal punters, then there is no strong incentive to go balls out like Hansa park or Dollywood do.Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastermaniac94 Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Well TP can theme their rides as well as those listed, they real question is why they don't. I just don't think there is enough drive to really place any strong emphasis on the theme any more. If the vast majority of visitors don't really care too much about good theming and stories (or notice them when they appear) and there aren't any huge parks down the road threatening to steal punters, then there is no strong incentive to go balls out like Hansa park or Dollywood do.DaveI agree with this comment and btw to everyone the decision for the planning is likely to be made on the 1st, 2nd, 21st, or 22nd of april. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javs Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 So we could find out if planning has been granted within days. Very exciting. Anyone else noticed that over at RCDB.com, they have recorded that LC12 will have 5 inversions! Sorry if this has already been mentioned, only it has been a while since this topic has been active. Looking at the plans I can only see 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamY Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Depends if you count the helix type thing after the Zero-G as an inclined loop or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Either way, I'm looking forward to LC12, especially if it a 4D coaster. I think Thorpe are finally going to pull their finger out thinking they can just pass rides off as 'good attempts' with the lack of theming. I believe Thorpe will change things around, £18m in a coaster, a high budget! Also, if this fails, it is still a very large coasters AND for another thing there's the next coaster as well 2015 I believe which is slightly smaller, BUT STILL OVER 100FT. So either way, I'm happy, I just think most things need a refurb and a bit more theming added. Thorpe have the budget and money, so they should, hopefully they will see sense if the theming proves fantastic on LC12 with the GP response and will add more to their current rides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Bear in mind that Merlin bunch theming, landscaping and development all in the pot, so the ride itself is not going to be 18 million... Jord 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepie Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Indeed, Merlin take into account all associated funding for the entire project, whether that is marketing, PR stunts... anything that's to do with the ride until the thing opens to the public. From what I've heard though, the funding for the infilling is a totally separate budget.It's still a large amount of money though, enough to do the ride justice hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamY Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Considering Saw had infilling done too, it's still £4.5 mil higher than the budget for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas the tank Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 the money for infilling must be seperate and was done in one hit- after Saw:the ride was built they dug out the outer side of the lake and added to the main island (more from the outside than added to the inside due to regulation about the usage of the lakes) and its al been pretty much finished now- just hope that as its all had time to settle the rides wont sink at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas the tank Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Is it just me or do alot of people on here overlook the fact that alot of thorpe parks theming is very good? It might not have the beautiful scenary of Alton Towers and some of the other theme parks around but in terms of ride theming they are right up there with the best of them!I think the theming for Colossus, Inferno, and particularly SAW are very good. And I believe this ride will be no exception!so so true. Plus just look at what Thorpe are doing- they started as more of a family park with defined areas and now they are going for a smaller target group they are trying to move away from some of the areas (I.e ranger county, neptunes beach) and trying to replace them with rides that are more exciting but all the time they are being added into areas (I.e Stealth and now Storm Surge being added to Amity Cove) they need to try and fit new rides in with old themes- its not always that easy. so people should pay a little more attention and aprechiate the effort made, specialy as there is a some what lack of space to develop thorpe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Out of interest, show me a fantastic piece of theming at Thorpe that isn't just an iconic part of a ride but is just there to envoke a mood.To help you along heres a picture which isn't part of a ride but part of a restraunt. It's probably so overlooked because its so subtle...Yes it is from Chessington, but show me a few bit's of Thorpe theming to convince me that their theming is up there with the best of them.(Also using Tidal wave gas tanker and water tank will fail you because they no longer work. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamY Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 I'd usually agree with you Mark, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Does THAT even work these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 I'll give you that one, shame that it is quite literally in a place where no one can see it especially with all the new fencing around Colossus.Is it working still?Doubly shameful that it's Colossus's only piece of true theming to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 This evokes a good mood I;d say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Since when did CCR have a tunnel?And if if that's considered theming, Mark's point has been cemented... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 It's the tunnel to the loggers inside drop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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