10 hours ago, imindetonator said:

Well..

There goes Thorpe's best Water Ride.

Maybe they can just slap some VR on it next season to hide the ugly state the ride is in..

 

Lol maybe we should reserve the VR jokes for coasters and not water rides. After all, electronic VR + Water probably = Death.

 

I really hope Loggers reopens, even just once lol, its the only Merlin flume Ive never been on.

Well Galactica and rain wasn't considered so I'm sure a water ride and VR has come up in a meeting at MMM. I seriously don't see loggers opening again and on top of that I don't see them using the space for years.

It's sad it has even got to this state, I mean surely the throughput was one of the highest of all of the rides in the park? It's not as if it was never busy and no one ever went on it. I can still remember some days thinking there was no queue for Loggers walking over that little bridge and realising you'll probably be queuing for an hour now, lol.
I agree with others - Depth Charge, Wet Wet Wet and Storm Surge would all be at the top of list to get rid of for me, Loggers isn't even in their league and would be bottom of the list, personally anyway.
What about Slammer? It's too unreliable and would mean more space, with the demolition of the toilet block and chocolate fountain stall etc, for a flat ride of some sort which would be much more reliable.


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I'm just awaiting the day the Merlin effect happens, Loggers is abruptly announced as permantly closed through a dribblly FAQ post followed by outrage from most.

 

I really want to see Loggers return, but am doubtful seeing how Merlin work. The  only thing that would make this closure acceptable would be if a woodie and/or a modern flume like Chiapas were the replacement

16 hours ago, Marc said:

Whilst I agree it don't look like any works been done to the ride, its probably not quite as bad as it looks, all it would need is a sweep of the trough and the wood fixing around the bottom of the drop and it would look just as it did at the end of last season!

 

Pump plants have to be regularly run to prevent them ceasing up and becoming useless. Water systems on the whole are very complicated and much more than I know. It would need a whole lot more work than sweeping the trough, it would need many essential repairs from what I gather, plus the repairs that forced it to close anyway.

 

Also, what the social media teams say is the line they've been given (or in many cases, half assumed from word of mouth around the offices) and unfortunately from experience communication between tech services teams and social media / PR teams is often very fragmented. I wouldn't really take much notice of what they say. All Merlin parks are packed full of uncertain decisions being reported as finalised, or managers viewing the reopening of things like Loggers as "nice to haves" and it gets reported as confirmed, but then when it comes to it, nothing happens.

It may still happen, and it seems Thorpe would love it to reopen, but track record and company attitudes would indicate not.

Considering Alton's social media team didn't evern know the new name of one of their rides earlier this year I put about as much faith in what they say as I do a chocolate fireguard.

On 9/22/2016 at 1:45 PM, Archive said:

Pump plants have to be regularly run to prevent them ceasing up and becoming useless. Water systems on the whole are very complicated and much more than I know. It would need a whole lot more work than sweeping the trough, it would need many essential repairs from what I gather, plus the repairs that forced it to close anyway.

 

 

True - that said Loggers did often suffer issues with pumps, even last year it had temporary pumps in to keep it open over some periods.

4 hours ago, Ian-S said:

Considering Alton's social media team didn't evern know the new name of one of their rides earlier this year I put about as much faith in what they say as I do a chocolate fireguard.

Alton Towers' social media don't even have the slightest clue though, Thorpes are much more competent.

5 hours ago, Marc said:

 

True - that said Loggers did often suffer issues with pumps, even last year it had temporary pumps in to keep it open over some periods.

 

That's a shame, but at least if they weren't willing to resolve the problems altogether, they managed to extend its lifetime by another year or so.

Just asked Thorpe park if loggers will be reopening and got this response, doesn't look too good now!

Platform 15 will probably give us the answer of what loggers is really like at the moment 

7 hours ago, Jack0102 said:

Just asked Thorpe park if loggers will be reopening and got this response, doesn't look too good now!

So its gone from "Loggers Leap will be closed for refurbishment for 2017!" To "We hope Loggers Leap will make a splash back in 2017" to "This hasn't been confirmed yet"

 

R.I.P Loggers Leap. 

I don't know why people keep trying to ask questions that social media accounts NEVER answer...

Usually you get a vague copy and pasted response..

Though Loggers Leap does seem unlikely to re-open next year sadly.

I could see it being SBNO for a while TBH..

1 hour ago, imindetonator said:

Usually you get a vague copy and pasted response..

Though Loggers Leap does seem unlikely to re-open next year sadly.

I could see it being SBNO for a while TBH..

 

Yup I've given up hope of it returning.  Bloody love that ride - it was perfect for the whole family and got you just the right amount of moist(!).  Rumba you come off dry, and Tidal Wave you may as well take bloomin' shower gel with you.  Not even going to mention Storm Turd.

 

Loggers was a Thorpe Park classic and I think a lot of people will miss it - lets face it - it's not like it was unpopular (though saying that Storm Turd gets a ridiculous queue).  I hate seeing rides SBNO - like when Rodeo at CWOA was SBNO for a year it just looked awful and I don't think it's great from the GPs perspective.  Well I guess at least they have hidden Loggers pretty well - until you get on Samurai!

 

This is what thorpe said when I messaged them

 

 

I think its fair to say Thorpe don't even have a clue if it'll be reopening at this point.

I know the social media team obviously don't know absolutely everything about when/if Loggers is reopening, but somehow their language just sways towards the announcement next March being the one we all are dreading to hear. It should be worded completely different if this is not the case.


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ive seen their social media teams give two completely opposite answers to the same question before. I hope it reopens, although I didn't often go on it when it was colder, its a great ride for the summer for sure would be a shame for it to sit there unused!

5 minutes ago, jessica2 said:

would be a shame for it to sit there unused!

 

Like it already is.........

2 hours ago, jessica2 said:

ive seen their social media teams give two completely opposite answers to the same question before. I hope it reopens, although I didn't often go on it when it was colder, its a great ride for the summer for sure would be a shame for it to sit there unused!

 

I went on it in the snow.....twice while sat at the front - that was beyond painful

On 9/23/2016 at 5:47 PM, ChessingtonSam said:

Alton Towers' social media don't even have the slightest clue though

 

You got that right! Nearly didn't end up going there because they told me the wrong information, thankfully I phoned Alton and got the right info

During my behind the scenes tour of platform 15 everytime they said something about loggers they said it as WAS loggers. Which probably does mean it's biting the dust and not coming back.

I agree about loggers being completely gone. There were tree branches in the trench at many points, a few pieces were actually broken and for platform 1&, they were running it off the power supply and server room of loggers. The thing is as well, all the conveyors look to still be in place, and wouldn't those be removed for winter maintainence? So suggests that they just moved some boats and left it in the state it ended last year.

I spoke to a staff member at fright night and she said the ride will open in summer 2017 with a new name and a sponsor ( hopefully not imperial leather)