Ricky Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Not quite! Timber Falls, Raging River, Wild Water, Canyon River and Rugrats' Lost River all operate in the UK, and there's probably a lot more than that. I understand it's more than just general maintenance, but should rides really get to the state where they are unfit to operate? If the ride is up for removal then they should just say so rather than letting people think it will reopen. I genuinely struggle to understand why you are on this forum. We do not know what issues, if any, have occurred on Loggers which led to this decision. And as has already been stated, why would they be doing any work on a ride immediately when they have almost 17 months to do any work they do need to do. I would much rather them concentrate on rides that will be open in less than 3 months, this could be the boost needed to ensure they have as many rides fully functioning at maximum capacity and concentrate on areas that have let them down over the last few years. Just think, those two engineers who would be working on Loggers, could be working on all the effects park wide, maybe even ensure dodgems has more than 3 cars working. Maybe the elusive water tower in Amity Cove will be resurrected. I just think doing closed season maintenance on a ride which is sheduled to be closed for a year and a half is just ludicrous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraX Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 @Coaster Jamie, The reason they're not saying much is that this year has really demonstrated that the parks have been under fire and it's been up to the marketing teams to side step negativity. That's where the TLC thing has come from at Towers, they're managing us and avoiding further negativity. Chessington are doing the same with their spruce up, whilst quietly removing all advertising of their new ride and I expect Thorpe are trying to find their place in all this too. I completely agree with your point and there's enough rumour surrounding all the Merlin only flumes, that suggest this is the end of the road for the best log flume in the UK. Perhaps something can change. The current petition going round Facebook (regards to Towers) is a good step, as is the press getting wind of Towers closing so many rides next year.. Maybe with enough pressure they can reverse these knee jerk reactions that Merlin have become so bad at. Coaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 I genuinely struggle to understand why you are on this forum. Because I care about the UK's theme park industry. We do not know what issues, if any, have occurred on Loggers which led to this decision. And as has already been stated, why would they be doing any work on a ride immediately when they have almost 17 months to do any work they do need to do.I would much rather them concentrate on rides that will be open in less than 3 months, this could be the boost needed to ensure they have as many rides fully functioning at maximum capacity and concentrate on areas that have let them down over the last few years.Just think, those two engineers who would be working on Loggers, could be working on all the effects park wide, maybe even ensure dodgems has more than 3 cars working. Maybe the elusive water tower in Amity Cove will be resurrected.I just think doing closed season maintenance on a ride which is sheduled to be closed for a year and a half is just ludicrous. My whole point was that Loggers probably doesn't need to be closed for a whole year, if they had the money/resources/whatever they need they could probably get it open at least in time for the summer of 2016. If reliability, capacity and effects improve in 2016 then I will understand the reason behind having one ride closed to focus efforts elsewhere, but unfortunately the underlying problems at Thorpe have been there for years, which doesn't leave me which much hope of operations improving - but hopefully I'm wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 Because I care about the UK's theme park industry. Hmmph, you have a funny way of showing it. saffy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 My whole point was that Loggers probably doesn't need to be closed for a whole year, if they had the money/resources/whatever they need they could probably get it open at least in time for the summer of 2016. If reliability, capacity and effects improve in 2016 then I will understand the reason behind having one ride closed to focus efforts elsewhere, but unfortunately the underlying problems at Thorpe have been there for years, which doesn't leave me which much hope of operations improving - but hopefully I'm wrong! As we know, Merlin aren't in normal circumstances right now. How do you know Loggers 'probably' doesn't need to be closed for a whole year? Regardless, they have no intention of opening it in 2016 so what would be the point in doing the maintenance (whatever this maintenance is) right this moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 Priorities need to be considered really unfortunately... Why work on something that isn't on the list of opening next year? Of course, it is the park's fault things have been left to rot as they have... Shows what happens when only investing on things that are only meant to bring in guests... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 Priorities need to be considered really unfortunately... Why work on something that isn't on the list of opening next year? Of course, it is the park's fault things have been left to rot as they have... Shows what happens when only investing on things that are only meant to bring in guests... I think it's probably wrong to assume loggers is closed due to how it's been treated, if there was any issues with the ride it's self it would of closed last year and not ran till the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celia Mae Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 I think it's probably wrong to assume loggers is closed due to how it's been treated, if there was any issues with the ride it's self it would of closed last year and not ran till the end of the season. It did spend a lot of the end of last season shut... saffy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
400400 Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 It did spend a lot of the end of last season shut...It was only shut once when I went ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieN Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 I've seen it shut 6 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
400400 Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 I've seen it shut 6 times.Huhh I guess I got lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattgwise Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 It was shut a lot on and off from around August time right up till the end of season. Very tempremental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 I think Marc's point is more that if there was a problem with the ride, it would have closed indefinitely before the end of season. They're not going to wait until the end of season to close down a ride which can't properly / safely run for the sake of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 They're not going to wait until the end of season to close down a ride which can't properly / safely run for the sake of it. Like they did with Black Hole, right up until the legislation changed, knowing all wasn't what it needed to be to comply with the new safety regulations? My whole point was that Loggers probably doesn't need to be closed for a whole year probably And everyone else's whole point is you don't know what it does and doesn't need to be closed for (as you point out here), so your relentless criticism about this is meaningless. Celia Mae and JoshC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattgwise Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Reply to a post on FB asking how the loggers refurbishment is going: Hi Dan, we will not be able to provide ongoing updates on the status of Logger's Leap, however we can confirm that the ride will remain out of action for the 2016 and we hope for it to make a splash back in 2017 =] Sounds like they really still don't know at this stage whether it will be back or not what with the word "hope". MattyMoo, saffy, slendercat and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMoo Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Indeed - interesting that they are already saying that they cannot provide ongoing updates - they'll probably be saying that a lot once the park opens, the season goes on, and Loggers remains untouched... saffy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glitch Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Reply to a post on FB asking how the loggers refurbishment is going: Hi Dan, we will not be able to provide ongoing updates on the status of Logger's Leap, however we can confirm that the ride will remain out of action for the 2016 and we hope for it to make a splash back in 2017 =] Sounds like they really still don't know at this stage whether it will be back or not what with the word "hope". The question here is though: Are the social media team "in the loop" or are they just out to keep everyone as happy as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 When have any park staff said anything direct about anyone asking questions about ride breakdowns and reopenings? Like, they wont say anything in case it goes horribly wrong... Surely everyone on here knows that? slendercat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 They are not refurbishing Loggers Leap this year, they are mothballing it for this year. Kerfuffle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 See, I would have a lot more respect for Thorpe if they were honest about things, but if this is true and the ride isn't being refurbished then they out-and-out lied to me and several others on their social media pages. I really hope they're not mothballing Loggers in favour of Containment's operating costs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is the first time anywhere on social media that they've said it will be opening in 2017? All other replies have said 'Loggers Leap is closed for maintenance in 2016', but never explicitly mentioned a reopening in 2017. Possibly just a mistake, but something to keep in mind in my opinion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 The way they worded some of their earlier responses suggested that the ride would open for 2017, but they never actually confirmed it. I just think it's wrong to claim the ride is being "refurbished" if that is not actually happening - and I'm not sure how they are going to explain to people why the ride looks no different, if it doesn't, throughout 2016. saffy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 The way they worded some of their earlier responses suggested that the ride would open for 2017, but they never actually confirmed it. I just think it's wrong to claim the ride is being "refurbished" if that is not actually happening - and I'm not sure how they are going to explain to people why the ride looks no different, if it doesn't, throughout 2016. You'd be surprised how easy it is to convince the general public. By simply saying something along the lines of 'The work we are currently doing to Loggers Leap is behind the scenes, so you won't see any changes yet', many people will accept that and move on. It is mainly the enthusiasts who will want to know more / not fully believe. The majority of guests will take that simple excuse any carry on. slendercat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Will Loggers Leap be open in the 2016 season? Opened in 1989, Loggers Leap has been a firm favorite amongst families and young adults. As a result of many years of operation, Loggers Leap is out of action for 2016 while it’s being renovated. This was a difficult decision to make, however we hope for it to make a splash-back in 2017 to the Resort. https://www.thorpepark.com/faqs/ Nothing new really, but this does confirm that the park are (hoping to be) reopening Loggers in 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMoo Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Yes, the inclusion of the word "hope" there could be very relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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