Matt 236 Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 Further bad news which may further salted an already bloody wound, dancer Vicky Balch who is still having trouble recovering may now be considering an amputation. Not good news at all, I'm starting to wonder whether the smiler won't reopen now for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 I feel The Smiler will be thrown into the limelight again as a girl has died in Sux Flags Magic Mountain. It has already poured into the news article of The Mirror: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/magic-mountain-girl-aged-10-5891693?ICID=FB_mirror_main Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge2002 Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 Anyone who has taken a 1st Aid course would probably have been told quite plainly, unless you point the finger at one select person to ring 999, there's a good chance no one will do it. Its human nature, and remember, even the ride ops are human beings too. If you walked outside and saw a comet fly down from the sky and bop someone on the head would your first instinct be to ring 999? You'd probably be so awestruck you wouldn't know what to do. I know its not exactly the same, but the incident just couldn't have happened in the ride ops minds, and it came as such surprise to everyone that I should suspect 90% of people probably had no clue how to react. OldFarmerDean 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmangi Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Just to put this entire thing in perspective , six people have died on a balcony that collapsed. Does this mean all balconys are unsafe and should be closed off? Should all balconys be torn down? Ian-S, OldFarmerDean, Mer and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Ohhh, I can add Revolution to my death cred collection now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 That accident just screams to me that the girl had some form of underlying condition that she was unaware of. It's still tragic, but no fault can be blamed on anyone really. Mysterio Ka and RobF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretchy Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Yes I'm with Josh on this one. Pre known/unknown condition. I actually thought that Revolution at SFMM was a bit meh. Ok but nothing amazing, if anything a bit forceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Ohhh, I can add Revolution to my death cred collection now... Well this is in poor taste. Kerfuffle, Matt 236 and Coaster 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merry-go-girl Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Basically we're just going to have to accept that this is the year that roller-coasters are demonized. It's this years bird flu and it gives the papers something to fill columns for the next few months. If someone sneezes on the teacups it'll be a headline. Matt 236, Kerfuffle and RobF 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted June 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Good job the press wasn't at Thorpe the other Sunday as someone had decorated the entire path behind Rush with their lunch after riding it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzzellio Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Good job the press wasn't at Thorpe the other Sunday as someone had decorated the entire path behind Rush with their lunch after riding it.Somebody had chundered on Colossus too, the ride was closed for 20 minutes for "essential cleaning".Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted June 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 On Colossus? ROFLMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerfuffle Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 On Colossus? ROFLMAO Yes. On a 10 inversion coaster. What did you expect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted June 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Perhaps it's just me but I've never found coasters nauseating, things like Rush and Enterprise/Zodiac, those I do get a bit light headed on sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzzellio Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 We're going a little off topic here, but I'll just chip in that the only coaster that makes me anything near nauseated is Inferno. I come off that ride feeling almost dazed. It's brutal! Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planenut Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 People get sick on coaches and thankfully not many of them have inversions. Celia Mae, RobF, Matt 236 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted June 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Well, having seen the ride myself today, I can safely say that if it turns out the operator couldn't see the car then I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest that it happened, I couldn't tell one section of the track from another and I was standing right next to it, I can't imagine how difficult it would be from a CCTV with no depth of field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Well, having seen the ride myself today, I can safely say that if it turns out the operator couldn't see the car then I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest that it happened, I couldn't tell one section of the track from another and I was standing right next to it, I can't imagine how difficult it would be from a CCTV with no depth of field.There's a simplified light up diagram on the control panel screen. Thorpelover, Tom and Ian-S 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpelover Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) Tbh I believe its both a human and a technical fault. I've put together an opinion based on some of the things I have read. From what I have gathered, you're not supposed to load a car while a test car is going around. Second, the car was forced off the first lift hill which meant it was overridden by the operator. The block brake should have stopped the car. Is any of this right because if so it seems legit? Edited June 19, 2015 by Tommy Spelling and grammar. Please use a spell checker :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Tbh I believe its both a human and a technical fault. I've put together an opinion based on some of the things I have read. From what I have gathered, you're not supposed to load a car while a test car is going around. Second, the car was forced off the first lift hill which meant it was overridden by the operator. The block brake should have stopped the car. Is any of this right because if so it seems legit? Having worked on Dragon's Fury on Chessington, there are no rules about waiting for a test car to come back - Sometimes trains are sent empty just for convenience depending on the fault. It is still unknown why the car moved on from the lift hill after waiting for 10-20 minutes - I'm doubtful that the operator would have the ability to override the blocking system, and would expect engineering to have to get involved, but I don't know the procedures on the Smiler at all. There are trim brakes between the lift hill and section of track where the trains collided, however they would not have been able to stop the train as they are just trims. The 'block brake' is the lift hill in this situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraX Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I'm doubtful that the operator would have the ability to override the blocking system, and would expect engineering to have to get involved Unless it was left in manual after engineering added the extra train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 What evidence was there that they added a new train? The queue times suggest a train was added about an hour before. Also the story from the people on the train said they got on and off the train 3 times before they were finally sent. Doesn't sound like a train being added to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planenut Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I'm doubtful that the operator would have the ability to override the blocking system watch that space!, and would expect engineering to have to get involved, but I don't know the procedures on the Smiler at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Although nothing should be taken for certain, some people have a reputation for knowledge and truth and should just be listened to. Pay attention and work out who. We will all know in due course, because as much as Towers might not want the full facts laid bare the Health and Safety executive will take that out of their hands when they publish their report. TraX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraX Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 What evidence was there that they added a new train? The queue times suggest a train was added about an hour before. Also the story from the people on the train said they got on and off the train 3 times before they were finally sent. Doesn't sound like a train being added to me. The people who were 'next to get on the train' (which is inside), were also watching the stalled train (which is outside), and were shouting to stop the ride... A lot of those stories are rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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