Glitch Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Good to know I will be back on park tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerfuffle Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Stealth has reopened... ...with BOTH trains I expect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPJames Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Unsure, its currently 120mins so I would guess no however all coasters are above 90mins atm, so it could well be on two trains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchada04 Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 It's on two trains (or at least was when it opened). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altitude Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Is SAW open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPJames Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Is SAW open? Yes, saw is currently open with a 120min queue. All rides except samurai and flying fish are operational. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sully1311 Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Queue times are disgusting compared to Alton Towers. They need to improve throughput massively. dragon2000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altitude Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 When I went to Towers in May I queued 2 and a half hours for Smiler, and nothing else on both the saturday and sunday reached over 20 minutes! <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Given that yesterday the park was the busiest of this season (and probably last season), that a couple of rides were down and other reasons, I don't think throughputs are the thing that needed improving! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan9 Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Queue times are disgusting compared to Alton Towers. They need to improve throughput massively.Elaborate? Kerfuffle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 236 Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Could be worse, could be Legoland! Only Atlantis and Vikings get over 1000 pph. One must also remember when Stealth is down it throws another 1-2k of guests elsewhere in the park. Whilst towers does handle most queues a lot better than Thorpe (with the possible exception of CBeebies land & Sonic) Towers is much bigger than Thorpe by a minimum of at least five times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Unsure, its currently 120mins so I would guess no however all coasters are above 90mins atm, so it could well be on two trains. It's on 2 trains - just a very busy day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Colossus, Inferno, Saw and Stealth are currently all closed. Swarm has ended up with 140min queue and X has a 60min queue. Bad day to be there....Meanwhile BPB have 9 out of 10 coasters open (PMBO was closed due to wind for half the day but not their fault) and all operating on full capacity with most queues less than 30 mins (yet park was fairly busy).Well, there were a few breakdowns but rides were back open again within 20 mins. It's funny that a park that makes a loss can still beat the "might" of Merlin - I know where I'd rather be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchada04 Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Colossus and Inferno were only down for 10 minutes, was just inconvenient that it was the same time Saw was also down (which they couldn't help if it breaks they need to fix it) and Stealth was down because it just was and had been the whole of Friday too! Not sticking up for Thorpe but you can't compare Thorpe's busiest day of the season (guests parked in coach park and the yellow "Thorpe Park is now full" signs ready to be used) with a standard Saturday at BPB where half their coasters only need to make it to the top of the lift Hill and stop in the station. And if they're making a loss then they aren't really beating the might of Merlin, it is a business after all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 They are beating the might of merlin on guest satisfaction. which in turn will lead to BPB being better at business. Unfortunately the monopoly of merlin is preventing any competitor from taking them on because of their sheer size. The only company that is close to being able to take on the money squeezing people of merlin seems to be paramount. Coaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pognoi Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 You honestly can't say that as paramount haven't even started bloody building yet. Please don't talk that much out of your arse. Besides BPB is unfortunate to be positioned on one of the UK's most declining sea side towns. Nothing (or little) to do with BPB's popularity, just as a whole the town will get less visitors in the coming years, which in turn means less people going to BPB. In 2000 they suffered a huge dip in popularity in the city and as such have replenished some of the facilities, but with travel becoming cheaper and easier for us to go abroad some of our sea side resorts are seeing a decline in numbers. (I know this because I just did a 2000 word essay on Blackpool's decline vs a Spanish city, and Brighton. THE MEET TO BLACKPOOL HAD AN EDUCATIONAL USE YEAH!!) Altitude and pluk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 I hope you mentioned that one of the reasons in declining numbers of people to Brighton is down to the green party and their £10 an hour parking. The reason I said paramount being the only ones who can take them on is because they are the only company with the level of investment which can take on the vast relative amount merlin spend. Providing that it goes ahead of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 BPB are definitely taking them on at guest satisfaction at the moment, and I think they might make a profit this year as they had a really busy summer. Anyway this isn't a BPB topic haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 ...Meanwhile BPB have 9 out of 10 coasters open (PMBO was closed due to wind for half the day but not their fault) and all operating on full capacity with most queues less than 30 mins (yet park was fairly busy). Well, there were a few breakdowns but rides were back open again within 20 mins. It's funny that a park that makes a loss can still beat the "might" of Merlin - I know where I'd rather be! Thats no consolation prize for the people at Thorpe on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.S217 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I thought this was a closed ride topic not a let's moan about Merlin topic and say how bad they are (update everything is closed at Thorpe) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altitude Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Project LC, what you don't seem to understand is that the point of guest satisfaction is to make more money! Even if the guest satisfaction is great, it's obviously not good enough there to bring the crowds back time and time again. Therefore even though Merlin's customer satisfaction and guest experience isn't always great, they're still making tonnes more money which makes them a better business on paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I never said that merlin wasnt the better business. I stated that merlin is a monopoly in the market. BPB will overtime gain more popularity if guest satisfaction is good which will lead to bigger budgets and finally end up in them being able to advertise on the scale merlin does which would allow them to compete. Merlin doesnt need to worry if guest satisfaction isnt that great as they have the budgets to spend on advertising to draw people back. Focusing on guest satisfaction would reduce the need for massive advertisment budgets but they dont seem to have worked that out yet. If they employed more staff then they would be a much better park. Clearly this year the engineers have been a little under staffed hence the 1 train op in the mornings and inturn this has lead to what seems to be an increase in breakdowns. Its not been a harsh year weather wise, so to have so many rides breaking down as often as they have done this year is quite poor. Yes the rides are fairly old but thats the case at a lot of parks and not many of those have had the sort of breakdowns thorpe have been having. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altitude Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Merlin doesnt need to worry if guest satisfaction isnt that great as they have the budgets to spend on advertising to draw people back. Well that's not really true is it. All attractions should worry about it, because if an experience is awful, no new ride would be good enough to wipe away that bad experience. I completely get what you're saying about the marketing budget, but that's just another cog in the machine in my opinion. paige 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I more meant that merlin with their budget only need to aim for good rather than great. Yes great would benefit them more but being only good is still fine for their business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 RIDES SOME OF THEM MIGHT BE CLOSED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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