Coaster Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 34 minutes ago, Marc said: I'm not too worried about them maintaining effects, they are pretty good at that now! Hasn't that fire been off for most of the season so far? David B and dragon2000 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Its been on my last 3/4 visits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Just now, Marc said: Its been on my last 3/4 visits That's good, the two visits I've had this year it has been off. dragon2000 and OldFarmerDean 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 People talking about Merlin cutting staff, then Alton Towers install a ride experience that needs around 20 people to staff it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Just now, Owen said: People talking about Merlin cutting staff, then Alton Towers install a ride that needs around 20 people to staff it... But it's not in Alton's budget at the moment, it's another bizarre short term investment that in the long run is likely to cause problems for the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 At the end of the day, people really need to stop judging how the attraction will be operated before it's even opened. We don't know the extent actors and staff will be needed - and so having more or less actors at a time may hinder or not effect the experience. Once people have have ridden the ride I feel that then it is okay to start with the "oh it will be okay until X Y and Z are cut". I'm not Merlins biggest fan, but I (and I'm sure a few others) are getting tired of this debate as its come up so many times and the outcome is always the same - there isn't one because no one is none the wiser. PJ., Matt A and CharlieN 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L7123456 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I honestly don't know where Insider got the idea to post cryptic clues online for people to solve.... Cian, KingNemesis and CharlieN 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 35 minutes ago, Owen said: At the end of the day, people really need to stop judging how the attraction will be operated before it's even opened. We don't know the extent actors and staff will be needed - and so having more or less actors at a time may hinder or not effect the experience. Once people have have ridden the ride I feel that then it is okay to start with the "oh it will be okay until X Y and Z are cut". I'm not Merlins biggest fan, but I (and I'm sure a few others) are getting tired of this debate as its come up so many times and the outcome is always the same - there isn't one because no one is none the wiser. It's only going by previous experience and it is ok to speculate. We want this ride to be perfect beyond its first couple of seasons after all, it shouldn't be a case of only at the top of its game for the first few years of its existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Speculation I'm all for, constantly bringing up the same fruitless argument - not so much... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topsyturvy15 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 At least Fright Nights have shown that Thorpe can train its actors well; bodes well for an attraction with a high reliance on actors! The extra time can only help them perfect their roles and understand the attraction better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenVig Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Marc said: I'm not too worried about them maintaining effects, they are pretty good at that now! That's blatently opening day KingNemesis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 236 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Well nothing says recent more than an absent billboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenVig Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 1 hour ago, MilesK said: I honestly don't know where Insider got the idea to post cryptic clues online for people to solve.... Insider couldn't be anymore outside about secrets and inside knowledge. yeah, KingNemesis and L7123456 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 The fire effects were only added in the second year of operation (due to health and safety issues). Aka when the billboard was installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cian Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 42 minutes ago, StevenVig said: Insider couldn't be anymore outside about secrets and inside knowledge. (and mutual respect) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 48 minutes ago, Owen said: The fire effects were only added in the second year of operation (due to health and safety issues). Aka when the billboard was installed. The fire effect was introduced mid way through the 2012 season; about July time I believe. Owen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 What was that old saying? Don't feed the trolls? If he annoys you ignore him, then once the ride opens, if what he says was correct, you won't be eating copious amounts of humble pie. L7123456 and PJ. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Oh was it? I apologise, I had no clue it was there in 2012! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David B Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 57 minutes ago, BaronC. said: The fire effect was introduced mid way through the 2012 season; about July time I believe. I saw the fire effects today for the first time. I was quite suprised they was on so often especially based on how much they cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David B Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I spoke to some staff today that had rode Derren Brown Ghost Train yesterday. I also got asked by a member of staff if I planned to attend the opening day. Do you think that indicates that there may not now be a soft opening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I think they are just asking if you're going to attend honestly haha! Personally I can see an after hours softs for hotel guests, that way the park is quieter and there's less chance of the public moaning if they see anyone evacuated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David B Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 They didn't offer it for hotel guests last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Just because they didn't offer it on one particular evening doesn't mean it will never happen? Its just an idea - nothing confirmed. David B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 33 minutes ago, Owen said: Oh was it? I apologise, I had no clue it was there in 2012! Yeah, but when it first started it was only going off once every 7-10 circuits. It was only from 2013 they made it once every 3(?) circuits, and even more often than that on quiet days / Summer Nights. I'm not sure how often it's been going off this season though; I think it's more like once every 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 5 hours ago, Owen said: People talking about Merlin cutting staff, then Alton Towers install a ride experience that needs around 20 people to staff it... You don't know what you're talking about then, since Alton Towers have had significant cuts to their staff deliberately, and Galactica's staff are all paid for the first 2 seasons by MMM's budget, so in effect Towers management have saved on the entire cost of running Air for 2 years. As soon as those years are up, the cost cutting will come down on Galactica too. The Swarm fire effect was meant to be there from the very beginning but MMM failed to make that appear on time too.. There's a difference between people judging before it opens and people being quite rightly cautious considering an atrocious track record and the problems this project has faced already before it's opened. I'm sure more will come to light soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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