Will Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) That's not the point Ethan. My comparison to Expedition Everest was purely speed-based. A coaster that can travel at 50mph doesn't have to cost $100,000,000. The point was that a family coaster doesn't necessarily need to be the speed of the Flying Fish. Get out. For me, Thorpe need to stick with something reliable, and put their own stamp on it. I'm not asking for the world's most anything, but to get the postcode's first something would be a bit **** as well. I think they need to bring something reliable and relatively unseen to the table and make it uniquely British. This would be very easy with a Mack Megacoaster รก la Blue Fire or Helix, or a GCI/GG (not RMC thnx), as they're yet to touch these shores and they have nothing but rave reviews by all riders. A Wooden coaster that utilises the parks topography to it's full potential would be equally well received, as the last wooden coaster built in the UK is 18 years old. I agree with Dara, I would like something reliable and is straight-forward and effective. I think a Blue Fire or Maverick-type coaster would be amazing. It's always been a thing of mine that I don't like Stealth and love Rita more. There's nothing I wouldn't love more than to have the top hat of stealth with the layout of Rita. Blue Fire looks incredible (haven't ridden it) and so is Cheetah Chase, which feels amazing to ride (Oct 2013). I think a Woodie is much-needed and long overdue and it would be fantastic if Thorpe were to build a Woodie, and show the GP what has been accomplished and innovative changes have been made to Woodies since the last one was built in the UK. The Woodie would give Thorpe that diversity when it comes to coaster types and it would demonstrate how much differently a Woodie feels to ride than a steel coaster. I loved Gwazi a lot actually and we went on it several times in Busch. Don't get me wrong; I love Oblivion and it's potentially my favourite UK coaster. But I don't want Thorpe Park to get a Dive Coaster under any circumstances Even a standard sit-down B&M would be good if it had an interesting layout? No gimmicks and amazing theme anyone? 1) I would love a B&M sit-down like Kumba and I think it's smoother and better than Colossus. I think the theme and concept of Colossus is fantastic. This may be an unpopular opinion, but I am here for Colossus (Intamin) being replaced by a B&M sit-down, with a name similar to Colossus or to keep the same one for legacy reasons. 2) I don't want Thorpe to get a Dive Coaster seeing we have Stealth and SAW, which have similar vertical-features. Neither do I want a Floorless seeing as we already have Swarm but if Thorpe WAS going to ever get a B&M sit-down than they can get floorless seating. 3) I'd be very happy if Thorpe could get a Flyer, seeing as I thought Manta and Air were very good, despite providing different experiences. I also don't get why some people are saying Swarm and a Flyer are the same or provide a similar experience. Swarm if anything, is like a Floorless coaster. Edited April 3, 2014 by Will OldFarmerDean and dragon2000 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted April 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 someone said to me that at a behind the scenes on nemesis, the engineer stated that the next coaster WILL be on the island behind swarm and WILL be b&m, but when asked what type, they hadn't confirmed that yet! That is not how the commissioning process works. They'll decide what thay want from the coaster first, then chose the manufacturer to suit, not the other way round. Uness they are working with b&m on an entirely new product, which merlin do have a strong track record for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.S217 Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 As Much as I love the idea of a Wooden Coaster I would not mind another B&M making the Park have a Trio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 If it's gonna be a B&M, why not have a Hyper coaster? Considering how fab Shambhala is as well, it would be a perfect addition to not just the park, but the UK as a whole... dragon2000 and Whiteknuckle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 If it's gonna be a B&M, why not have a Hyper coaster? Considering how fab Shambhala is as well, it would be a perfect addition to not just the park, but the UK as a whole... That would be good, but the height restriction the park has would stop if from being able to compete with the likes of Shambhala - not that that necessarily matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GladiatorFanKyle Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 I know it's not a coaster but if thorpe are gonna get a big coaster then maybe upgrading Detonator to one of the funtime drop towers. I'm sure you can get a park model . They have more seats but are not as forceful as detonator. ste193 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC! Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 Tbh, a hyper coaster doesn't need to be tall to be considered world class, all the intamin megalite clones are widely considered some of the best rides on the planet and that translates on the mitch hawker polls, also B&M have made smaller hypers like, Goliath in La Ronde and Apollo's chariot in BGW, both under 200ft both considered world class rides. So height with hypers, isn't everything, all merlin need to do is create a great layout it can be considered thorpe's first world class ride (because lets face it, there are none at the park at the moment). FrightNights04 and OldFarmerDean 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I know it's not a coaster but if thorpe are gonna get a big coaster then maybe upgrading Detonator to one of the funtime drop towers. I'm sure you can get a park model . They have more seats but are not as forceful as detonator. No thank you. Tom, Benin, Matt 236 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.S217 Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 all merlin need to do is create a great layout it can be considered thorpe's first world class ride (because lets face it, there are none at the park at the moment). I would consider Colossus to be World class along with The Swarm,Rush and Slammmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC! Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I would consider Colossus to be World class along with The Swarm,Rush and Slammmer I'd hardly consider the coasters as world class because half of Colossus is just the same element over and over again and swarms layout is a little short and uninspiring personally compared to layouts like Raptor and FDD IMO, but yeah Rush and Slammer are world class flats FrightNights04 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 So world class one has lots of clones and is regularly run badly and the other spends about a week open and the manufacturers have given up on it? Nothing at Thorpe can be considered world class... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I think the 'world class' dispute is a pointless argument. What one considers world class, another thinks otherwise. Everyone will inevitably have their own opinion on what is considered world class. EC! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I know it's not a coaster but if thorpe are gonna get a big coaster then maybe upgrading Detonator to one of the funtime drop towers. I'm sure you can get a park model . They have more seats but are not as forceful as detonator. Thorpe don't really need it to be honest, Detonator hardly get's ques anyway. I would like to see a taller drop towers maybe at some time in the future, but I wouldn't want to see one with less power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 If anything is going to be deemed 'world class' - although it is a term that makes me cringe a little - surely it should be Swarm, although the ride is a little short, the experience, the ride it self and the theming is amazing. It's not as forceful as a lot of us expected but as far as I'm aware I'm pretty sure that's the general consensus with all the wing-riders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinnaird Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 does any one know what the height restriction is at thorpe?and I think that they might do something a little more than a repaint maybe new seats/carriage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 does any one know what the height restriction is at thorpe? and I think that they might do something a little more than a repaint maybe new seats/carriage? Stealth was a one-off and they had to paint the top half white so it blended and wasn't being visual pollution. For their plans for the next coaster, it wasn't going to exceed a certain height, can't remember what it is exactly but quite a bit smaller than Stealth. Airtime machine would be nice, and it doesn't have to be huge either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinnaird Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I think that it will work well in the park because they don't have many airtime elements in there coasters the only ones I can think off are Colossus and saw but they only have the 1 and it will be perfectly located at the back of the park behind swarm making it easy to get to because I think that it is a hassle to get to at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Never get people's obsessions with wanting to replace Detonator with a different drop tower to be honest. It's a good drop tower and, form what I've heard, packs more of a punch than most others out there... As for the next coaster, it can potentially have a maximum height of 164ft. holtjammy16 and FrightNights04 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinnaird Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I don't have a problem with detonator as is and that's quite a height as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFarmerDean Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 How tall is piraten or the new one at nigoland... Would be such a great addition for Thorpe - or and RMC eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 According to RCDB, Piraten is 101 foot tall. I'd really be up for Thorpe getting something like it, maybe even the Mack version. The ride just packs such a punch for something so little. OldFarmerDean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th13teen Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Flying Coaster, Perhaps a launch flying coaster! But to be honest we speculate but almost always get it wrong, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomglazed Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 While that does sound cool, I'm not sure it would happen. Thorpe already have a ride with one of its only focus points being the launch so that box has already been ticked. Even the flying thing to some extent is covered by Swarm. Obviously the ride designs are quite different but the experiences would be you're either flying on the wings of an alien or you are taking flight yourself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFarmerDean Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 According to RCDB, Piraten is 101 foot tall. I'd really be up for Thorpe getting something like it, maybe even the Mack version. The ride just packs such a punch for something so little. It's not very gimmicky unfortunately - the only way around that would be to think of some worlds first themeing!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.S217 Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 WE DON'T NEED A GIMMICK Tom and Whiteknuckle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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