LK_ Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I know it's been said before but every time without fail you always see the entire car just jolt at the bottom of the drop and you see everyone's neck snap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Han30 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 You can now buy Saw: The Ride prints in the Saw store Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Still miles behind the massive poster I have of Flug von Damenon, but it's a start... How much they flogging them for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Han30 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, Benin said: Still miles behind the massive poster I have of Flug von Damenon, but it's a start... How much they flogging them for? £15 - so with MAP discount it would be £12 - bit pricey I guess. Am surprised TP don't sell posters - I think they would sell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 12 hours ago, StevenVig said: Saw is not rough, there is no jolt. Brace yourself and you will be fine. I imagine anyone who is complaining does not do this. There is no jolt because I choose not to ride. Matt10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMoo Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 On 9/21/2016 at 6:00 PM, Han30 said: £15 - so with MAP discount it would be £12 - bit pricey I guess. Am surprised TP don't sell posters - I think they would sell! I'd buy a nice Stealth poster in a heartbeat. But this is the SAW thread so I will keep quie.... Oh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/thorpe-park-thrill-seekers-fright-after-saw-ride-jams-leaving-them-hanging-upside-down-for-90-minutes/ar-BBxdgKl?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout I don't even know where to start with this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeah Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Project LC said: http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/thorpe-park-thrill-seekers-fright-after-saw-ride-jams-leaving-them-hanging-upside-down-for-90-minutes/ar-BBxdgKl?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout I don't even know where to start with this... I saw that. The headline I saw read something about 'hanging face up (what?) 30ft off the ground on World's Most Terrifying Ride' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThemeParkCrafter Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 And why not show a picture of chessington and dragon's fury on the daily mail's article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan.B Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 It was stuck right at the beginning of the vertical lift, and there were several crowds of GP watching it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaA Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Yawn. When will the media give up.. They're desperate attempts for journalism aren't even funny anymore.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 I really can't see how they can say it was "hanging upside down" with a picture of it clearly vertical on the lift hill.. Kerfuffle, Coaster and JoshuaA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Han30 Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Wasn't it someone that was stuck on the ride that tweeted that she was left upside down for X amount of time - I mean really - how can you confuse being on a lift hill to being upside down. Such a non story yet you have people outraged by it - does my nut in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chessiekid Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 A little bit off topic but for some reason that "news" story got me thinking about how much better a ride Saw would be if they were able to replace the trains with the infinity II style trains, or even just replace the shoulder restrains with lap bars. I know it would make no marketing sense to change it and Merlin are the type of company to add OTSR to an RMC. Still it would make for a great ride as the layout really isn't that bad at all its just all that head banging that ruins the ride a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 If you didn't have the head restraint keeping your head in the general place it's supposed to be then the result would be a basal skull fracture for you with some of those turns, which is your preference? Matt A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chessiekid Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 On 11/10/2016 at 2:22 PM, Ian-S said: If you didn't have the head restraint keeping your head in the general place it's supposed to be then the result would be a basal skull fracture for you with some of those turns, which is your preference? Not true, plenty of rides have snappy turns and utilize lap bars. Just take a look at Iron Shark or Dare Devil Dive, both Eurofighters both use lap bars Don't belittle me with a completely unfounded comment and then proceed to patronize me with a question like that. Especially as you seem to have no idea what your talking about. pognoi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Perhaps those rides have less forces involved, the Iron Shark POV on YouTube certainly doesn't look as rough as Saw. By the way, I didn't belittle you, I explained to you why, in my opinion, I felt that there was over the shoulder restraints on that particular ride, you see around 25 years ago I worked in an industry that suffered a spate of basal skull fractures, the research that went into finding a solution was extremely detailed and concluded that anything over about 5G the risk of detaching your skull from your spine was increased in a nonlinear way to the point that without something to restrict the head moving, it was almost guaranteed for everyday Joe public. They found their own solution (since it wasn't rollercoaster related) and that solution is still in use today, so I do have a little bit of experience on the subject, if you think everybody who disagrees with you is being patronising I suggest you grow thicker skin because there will be plenty throughtout your life, especially when it comes to your own safety. There is a scientific reason why over the shoulder restraints are used, it's not done just to annoy you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chessiekid Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 I can assure you Saw reaches nowhere near 5G in lateral forces in fact I'd be surprised if surpasses anything over 1. Shoulder restraints purpose are not to keep your head in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Well lets agree to disagree, obviously the restraints purpose are not solely to keep your head in place, but it helps. I'd love to take an accelerometer on it to see what lateral g is placed on a rider, as we found back in the day it's not the sustained g that is the main cause of injuries, it's the initial spike g that happens in the initial change of direction that does. The head restraint might seem overkill for you, or a fighter pilot, or racing driver who is used to experiencing high lateral g, but lets not forget the vast majority of people that ride these rides are not built for it and for the best part, the most strenuous part of movement their neck gets is moving from one screen to another in their office, without the restraint I'm sure more people would break the necks on those corners, it may not be the sole use, but it's an important one. BTW TTP has Saw's GForce listed as 4.5, but it does say what type of g it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chessiekid Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 yep it reaches around 4.5G in a few places however that's not in lateral G forces. If a roller coaster had the possibility of giving you a neck fracture, even with a restraint it wouldn't be open. I like to think I know a thing or two about roller coaster design and typical designers will avoid high lateral forces as much as they can as they are generally quite uncomfortable (for example, a wild mouse) I'll try back up my point with some evidence. Take this heart line roll on Maverick for example at 12 seconds (it was eventually removed cause of stress on the train) Now look at Mavericks restraints That restraint was not designed to keep your head in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
400400 Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 http://nolimits-exchange.com/news/g-force-lesson/35 give this a read Look at the graphs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Both Saw and Smiler could've been built with lap bars, half the time it's the owners decision (if there is a choice obviously) and I think a lot of the choice is often based on the country of residence... Lap bars on an intense coaster would probably appear unsafe to the masses... Karacho is probably a good example comparison as it does have similar train and elements to Saw... Plus a launch as well, though I reckon the main reason for OTSRs would be the drop, and though Iron Shark has both that and lap bars, 6 years is a long time for further development to allow Gerst to provide such an option for their Eurofighters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 236 Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Saw is certainly not 5G, unless you are reffering to the pain endured during the ride's jolts. The actual G is likely around 4.5G considering the track, layout and pace. Especially given Smiler's similarities which also offers 4.5G. Lap bars on this would be loverly and probably make the ride more enjoyable. Unfortunately at this time that is probably wishful thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 There was a person around on the forums who had a g force reading for many rides... Wonder if they did Saw... You could easily hit 5G on Saw, if only for .1 of a second and it'd still count anyways... Indeed most of any ride's highest g force is very quick and sudden otherwise there'd be a lot more issues if they were sustained for a duration... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Saw's advertised max g-force is +4.7G. Like Benin says, could spike at 5G on occasions quite easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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