Coaster Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 They need to sort themselves out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlesberg Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 What is it with slammer? How can it be closed this often? I've only got to ride it once in the 14 times I've gone to Thorpe Park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyRed95 Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Having Detonator closed for this long is driving me insane, not being able to ride on my last two visits was so disappointing, fave ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPJames Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Not sure where to post this but on park now, swarm is 60mins, stealth and Colossus are 30mins and nemesis inferno is 45mins. They are all on one train operation. Edit: Stealth is 60mins now and saw is 80minutes, stealth is running one train and saw is running 4 cars. Hopefully they will add more meaning queues die down in the afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Well clearly there isn't enough demand. Oh wait, any queue above 10 minutes I would call enough demand. We must remember that they are eco friendly and 1 train operation is saving the planet. TPJames 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altitude Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Not sure where to ask but what rides are closed at the moment? I'm heading there tomorrow and I'm wondering because apparently Samurai and Detonator are closed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Not sure where to ask but what rides are closed at the moment? I'm heading there tomorrow and I'm wondering because apparently Samurai and Detonator are closed? Those two plus Slammer are closed still. Altitude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altitude Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Ugh that's a shame </3 Any idea how long they've been down? (Detonator and Samurai, not Slammer as I expect that to break all the time) Thanks though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Absolutely ages for all 3 of them. Samurai managed about 2 weeks of operation just over Easter. Slammer is yet to open. Has detonator even opened this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPJames Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Absolutely ages for all 3 of them. Samurai managed about 2 weeks of operation just over Easter. Slammer is yet to open. Has detonator even opened this season?Detonator was open for the annual pass preview weekend and then broke straight after that. It's still sitting there not being worked on so I presume they are still waiting for a part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sully1311 Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 https://queue-times.com/park/thorpe-park?sort=queue_time Place to go for queue times and closures! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Not sure where to post this but on park now, swarm is 60mins, stealth and Colossus are 30mins and nemesis inferno is 45mins. They are all on one train operation. Edit: Stealth is 60mins now and saw is 80minutes, stealth is running one train and saw is running 4 cars. Hopefully they will add more meaning queues die down in the afternoon. That is just atrocious! I thought BPB were bad last week, after seeing this maybe I was being a bit harsh on them.What's the excuse this time then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pognoi Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 There's perfectly justifiable reasons behind most of these. Come on, all it takes is discussion. Stop sitting behind your computer screen digitally pointing and moaning and try to undertsand why these things happen. It's off peak, and most rides added capacity upon demand. That's perfectly normal and acceptable. Kerfuffle, coastercameron98 and SteveJ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPJames Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 It's off peak, and most rides added capacity upon demand. That's perfectly normal and acceptable. The thing is though, isn't "off peak" supposed to mean the queueing times are shorter? The queue times today for the major coasters were around the same if not longer than an average weekend. It wasn't as bad as it seemed though, we managed most coasters multiple times and had a fairly high ride count as everything apart from the coasters were virtually walk on all day. Nemesis inferno and saw also did add extra cars upon demand, resulting in short queues during the afternoon. Swarm and stealth were the only real problems, I'm sure 65minutes is enough "demand" for both of these to have a second train added but there must have been reasons behind it. The two spare stealth trains looked perfectly ready to be added however maybe running costs may have been an issue. Swarm definitely should have had a second train added, however this may have been down to a technical issue or another factor of which I do not know. The amount of people on park was around what I was expecting so I was pleasantly surprised when most queues died down in the afternoon(bar swarm and stealth which were over 30mins after 11am right up until closing time; swarm was also claiming a 30minute wait but we waited around 50-60minutes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pognoi Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Off peak simply means 'demand is less'. Some schools still don't go back until wednesday but some park figures have halved since the weekend before last, so in comparison it could still be determined as off peak. It is unfortunate that rides don't always increase capacity but it can be down to a numerous amount of circumstances, whether these are obvious or not is (obviously) not always clear. But at least most of the queues were within reason, it's good to hear that especially seeing as there will still be crowds there until mid week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Stealth requires another staff member to have a 2nd train. It needs someone on the offloading platform where as when on 1 train op the boarding side restraint checker doubles up as the person on offloading. Swarm does not require more staff so should be more straight forward in adding a 2nd, however the swarm trains take a lot of time to check with swarm often being one of the last rides to reach 2 train operation. With that being said I don't think that optional reduced capacity is ever justified . Off peak is called that for a reason. It shouldn't be getting near the level of queues as a peak day and yet it is a regular occurrence. Unless a 2nd train is slowing down operations I think that it should be added. It may cost a small fraction more but it improves guest satisfaction and means that they stand a small chance of removing the title of the UK's queue capital. People don't go to parks as they expect long queues so any time they can be avoided they should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon2000 Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Thorpe are doing terribly again this year with coaster capacity. Visited on Wednesday, the really hot day. Queues up to 90mins. Stealth on one train all day, multiple breakdowns. Swarm opened up an hour late, on one train until midday (I waited 20mins and then they added it on, total wait 50mins). Nemesis Inferno opened up around midday, got in the queue within 5mins of it opening when it was displaying 20min queue and waited 50mins at which point they added on the second train, total wait 80mins. Over-selling of Fast Track and staff mismanaging the Fast Track queue... Colossus we know about being on one train, queue up to 70mins. X still not at full capacity, queue up to 60mins. How often do you get to say it was actually SAW that probably had the fastest moving queue!? Same thing at Chessington. Again, we all know about Vampire. But how about Zufari operating in the Easter holidays with only two trucks going around, with 2/3 sat unused. Something has gone really wrong this year. And seems to most years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Now that sounds like stealths 2nd train (or launch system) has a problem. Which is something that cant be helped. But that doesn't let Thorpe off the hook, people still have a right to complain and apply pressure to them to make them improve their customer satisfaction. That can be in the form of adding a second train to meet demand or informing people in why the 2nd train is not in use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 236 Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 2015: Merlins worst year yet Think I know what I'm voting for most disappointing Merlin moment this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 2015: Merlins worst year yet Think I know what I'm voting for most disappointing Merlin moment this year 'Everything' is not a valid option... Thorpe never seems to really have an off-peak anymore in the same way that the others parks do... Probably not helped by the constant single train capacity though, perhaps pushing for that extra budget of staffing/maintanance would be beneficial to the guest experience... An hour long queue on one train isn't acceptable (apart from when the other train is borked a la Colossus, obviously)... Regardless of it being peak, or off-peak... TPJames, Kerfuffle and Ian-S 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroDan Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Towers queues peaked today at 15 mins for The Smiler. Because they run more trains... Thorpe are a joke in this regard. dragon2000 and Cal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Tuckwell Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 I still maintain that I just don't get how Thorpe think this is acceptable... Is it because they seem to attract the "younger generation" and take on a whole "put up or shut up" arrogant stance on the matter, because they know that the "youngsters" would never stand up to them due to lack of experiences etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Or it's reverse psychology? I.e. a person will think long (hour plus) queues are normal, so won't be inclined to complain about a 3 hour wait during the summer. What were the queues like this time last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraX Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 It's really shocking, but until everyone leaves them and visits decent parks, this is what we get. Whilst some of the rides at Thorpe are great, their operation is DIRE. As long as you have visited, and on paper they have 'a good year' Merlin will keep offering this awful sub standard, and we will constantly go round in these discussions. Thorpe is always the worst offender (aside from Vampire's shocking start this season), you'd think that someone would spot a problem. Like Chessington, somewhere in management there's a boss with history in SALES, not visitor experience, and at the end of the day, Merlin is only concerned with how many they get through the gate. Simples. There is nothing more to say. Running one train on what they call 'low peak' just saves them money on maintenance in the long run. Again money, not visitor experience. Yes I know it's a business to make money, but it's obvious whilst walking around the southern parks, that someone in the business is utterly clueless. Paramount will shake things up, even if they think people will return to their below standard southern 'resorts', where they can queue for lazy operations, or at Chessington those most popular rides built in the 1990's. pluk and Ian-S 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Well, Thorpe's operations are better on a quiet day then PA... Although, that's not saying much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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