November 5, 20159 yr comment_222715 Whatever happened to Vekoma and their Pandora's Box hardware? It basically looked like a poor mans robocoaster from the concepts. I know its not likely, but they could have revived this concept specially for Merlin? I believe even Efteling have given up on that concept (Hartenhof/Symbolica), and they throw money at things like it's going out of fashion... No chance of it, especially cos it's not even referenced on Vekoma's website anymore...
November 5, 20159 yr comment_222718 I don't think Hartenhof is/was going to be a Pandora's Box. It had a block of seating on an arm, whereas I believe the Pandora's Box concept was quite different.
November 5, 20159 yr comment_222719 Back when Hartenhof was first announced, the rumours were strongly pointing towards the PD system... Of course since it kept getting delayed it's all changed since... Old promo video here:
November 5, 20159 yr comment_222720 Ive heard Hartenhoff is going to be happening, but not until 2020 although it will be called something different now. Back on topic, I just hope this ride turns out to be worthwhile as the outcome could be something that is either utter,y brilliant or disappointing.
November 5, 20159 yr comment_222736 Benin, Hartenhof was/is going to use this technology... ... not the Pandora's Box! Although tbh the latter does look good.
November 5, 20159 yr comment_222737 http://www.simworx.co.uk/av-fx/agv-darkride/ I really think we're getting this!
November 5, 20159 yr comment_222744 Simworx did mention uk project being revealed next year when they released agv or something, so there's a chance
November 5, 20159 yr comment_222751 http://www.simworx.co.uk/av-fx/agv-darkride/ I really think this could be what we are getting! I think you could be onto something here...
November 5, 20159 yr comment_222752 I just hope it is a ride without a long, drawn out preshow (unless it's done really well). Having videos/preshows as part of the queue would be good but I much prefer just getting on the ride rather than, for example, the original Zufari setup. I'm probably in the minority with that though.
November 5, 20159 yr comment_222754 I just hope it is a ride without a long, drawn out preshow (unless it's done really well). Having videos/preshows as part of the queue would be good but I much prefer just getting on the ride rather than, for example, the original Zufari setup. I'm probably in the minority with that though. If the theme is going to be based in the Victorian era, the potential for a preshow is quite promising! I can see some sort of archival footage relating to the ride's story, giving perfectly good reason to why you're there!
November 6, 20159 yr comment_222770 I really hope this is succesful, but one gripe will it have rerideability factor?
November 6, 20159 yr comment_222771 Benin, Hartenhof was/is going to use this technology... Read what I said again: Back when Hartenhof was first announced, the rumours were strongly pointing towards the PD system... Of course since it kept getting delayed it's all changed since... Back in 2010 this was, if you look through Screamscape (lol, I know, but back in the day it was pretty much the go to place) they mention exactly them rumours... It probably changed to the massive box on wheels at some point, dunno when though... Probably once they realised the Box system was a bit useless looking...
November 6, 20159 yr comment_222774 AGV rides already exist. Also I did suggest this idea months ago. The problem with AGVs is that they are very expensive. The cost is coming down but the budget may not stretch that far.
November 6, 20159 yr comment_222776 £3m on the building, £5-15m on advertising. Remaining on theming and ride hardware. Now this is very likely to be screen based so that will take a large budget on animation/filming. So with all that the ride hardware comes to £10-20m. Now they are all rough estimates so I could be out by quite a lot. However an AGV for £30m would be a discount price. Another point to consider is AGVs struggle with elevation change. This is over 2 floors.
November 6, 20159 yr comment_222779 Is it over 2 floors though? Just because you load above ground level does not insist this thing will be over 2 floors. It could easily be a ceiling mounted ride system, or even just a really high ride vehicle. The stark reality is that we have no idea what it is, all we know is, that it is inside a building, and has been created by Derren Brown.
November 6, 20159 yr comment_222780 The plans show fire escapes where one has a staircase and he rest don't. It strongly suggests 2 floors. However there few lateral beams in the building to support a floor.
November 6, 20159 yr comment_222781 All we know is, that it is inside a building, and has been created by Derren Brown. New signature
November 6, 20159 yr comment_222793 It could be a simple dark ride with vehicle travel (similar to Duel's ride system) but with a lot of effects/enhancements, but the complicated nature of the building frame makes me think otherwise. One of the best things about the buildup to this attraction is that we literally have no idea what it is!
November 6, 20159 yr comment_222795 It could be a simple dark ride with vehicle travel (similar to Duel's ride system) but with a lot of effects/enhancements, but the complicated nature of the building frame makes me think otherwise. One of the best things about the buildup to this attraction is that we literally have no idea what it is! > Build enthusiast expectations to ridiculously high levels > Fail to exceed these expectations > ??? > Profit!!!
November 6, 20159 yr comment_222797 > ??? "Enthusiasts complain but still regularly visit and ride" is the missing phrase here.
November 6, 20159 yr comment_222803 > Build enthusiast expectations to ridiculously high levels > Fail to exceed these expectations > ??? > Profit!!! Well I'm not holding out hope on it actually being good but what I meant was that I like how they are keeping it a complete secret.I plan on going on it the same way I approach any new ride, which is with an open mind rather than expecting it to be amazing/awful. Thirteen's advertising was just stupid.
November 7, 20159 yr comment_222812 The advertising hypes me up, something for me and my friends to have a cheeky bit of gossip about before we go on it. I shall go into this ride with high expectations rightly or wrongly so Thorpe Park you better not let me down... again
November 7, 20159 yr comment_222814 High expectations means you are setting yourself up for a fall kiddo. Expect the worst, hope for the best, that is the best possible way not to be let down.
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