JoshC. Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Kerfuffle, Matt 236, Morgan.B and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchada04 Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 That's where the hypocrisy comes in. Of course you can still visit Towers. But if the 6 ride closure happens which you are clearly set against and then still go after saying you won't you would be being a hypocrite. Many times before you've said you wouldn't visit Thorpe as much as it's not worth it with the one train ops etc then you visit and come back complaining about one train ops. If it really bothers you that much then stop visiting, and if it doesn't bother you enough to actually stop you going then stop giving unconstructive feedback about the parks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 That's where the hypocrisy comes in. Of course you can still visit Towers. But if the 6 ride closure happens which you are clearly set against and then still go after saying you won't you would be being a hypocrite. Many times before you've said you wouldn't visit Thorpe as much as it's not worth it with the one train ops etc then you visit and come back complaining about one train ops. If it really bothers you that much then stop visiting, and if it doesn't bother you enough to actually stop you going then stop giving unconstructive feedback about the parks. Again, find me an example of where I have said I won't visit Thorpe and there may be some truth in what you're saying, otherwise the point is invalid. I have complained about the park, but to my memory I haven't flat-out said I won't visit.Just to add, if you are talking about visiting less, my visits were reduced in 2015 compared to 2014. Regarding Alton, it's case of not taking things literally - I won't choose to visit if six rides are closed, but if it turns out that a group of friends ask me to go, or my family decides to go, I'm not going to say "sorry but I said I wouldn't visit on TPM so I can't make it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Enough! Please keep discussion to Alton Towers rather than which appears to be another dig at Jamie. If you find there is hypocrisy or annoyance in another member here then please take that to private chat or ignore rather than bring the discussion down in the thread. It saddens me that there are people taking part who should know better and be giving an example rather than encourage it Coaster, OldFarmerDean, SteveJ and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 There's an official Galactica twitter account and a competition is running with a new challenge each week; collect the clues and be the first to ride! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraX Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 YAY! Will they be following in Thorpe's footsteps and giving the answers away, when they realise that no-one cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 It may just be coincidence, but I really don't like the way that Alton have seemingly waited until the end of the MAP sale before revealing their ride closures for 2016. I'm still waiting for an answer as to where the January announcement went! Celia Mae 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Han30, Matt 236, Kerfuffle and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchada04 Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 It probably isn't a coincidence. Towers would just say there was a delay in confirming it. Now they've started showing all the nice things they're doing on TLC they'll probably announce it as they'll be able to counteract it with "but hey look at what we've done, and the rides we've closed will get the same treatment" etc. We all know what 6 rides are closing, all I want to know is when Smiler will reopen and the actual closing times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewumbrajumbos Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Anyone mentioned all the other work towers are doing at the moment? Re painted Ice Age queue, Work being done clearing up Battle Gallions, Wood cutters repaint seem to be busy zebras at the momentos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Anyone mentioned all the other work towers are doing at the moment? Re painted Ice Age queue, Work being done clearing up Battle Gallions, Wood cutters repaint seem to be busy zebras at the momentos. I've seen their Twitter feed, it's great to see so much work going into revitalising the park and it should hopefully look great this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraX Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Don't you think that all of that work is just standard closed season maintenance? This is being dressed up as restorations, when it's actually work you will find in every one of the Merlin parks in winter. I actually find it pretty insulting how they're dressing all this TLC thing up. Shutters being painted brown, I couldn't care less about (why would we see the shutters anyway, unless there's more to be closed this season), Ice Age is actually a step backwards and was no doubt painted one colour by a seasonal member of staff doing winter works.. Nothing more. Thank goodness for the ACTUAL work they're doing on Nemesis, which also demonstrates they CAN do big jobs like this in winter, so begs the question why they would need to close anything during the season after all? HermanTheGerman and AdventureRyan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Don't you think that all of that work is just standard closed season maintenance? This is being dressed up as restorations, when it's actually work you will find in every one of the Merlin parks in winter. I actually find it pretty insulting how they're dressing all this TLC thing up. Shutters being painted brown, I couldn't care less about (why would we see the shutters anyway, unless there's more to be closed this season), Ice Age is actually a step backwards and was no doubt painted one colour by a seasonal member of staff doing winter works.. Nothing more. Thank goodness for the ACTUAL work they're doing on Nemesis, which also demonstrates they CAN do big jobs like this in winter, so begs the question why they would need to close anything during the season after all? I agree to an extent, but I quite like closed season updates - although advertising shutters being painted is a bit laughable. Â After looking at an older photo, Ice Age looked much nicer before with the detailed fence rather than just plain blue! Â As for painting being standard closed season maintenence, it should be, but Alton was looking very shabby in the past couple of years so hopefully this will help to give the park a much needed refresh. Â The bigger refurbishments such as repainting Nemesis are worth advertising IMO. Han30 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraX Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 I agree, although am disgusted how it's come under this deceiving TLC 'brand'. If they do confirm all those closed rides, this TLC will be the smoke screen. Basically turning the negative ride downtime into a positive 'but we're making them better', when it's total BS, it looks better making out they're updating, rather than budget cuts from our day out. It's deceiving and I can just imagine the bosses in a meeting talking about it. So far, aside from Nemesis, I haven't seen any real TLC (heck, Chessington are way in front with Tomb and Vampire). At least we can agree that Nemesis is fantastic, although I can see right through this TLC crap. If they confirm all the ride downtime under TLC, I won't visit this year as I find it utterly insulting. Coaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 If they confirm all the ride downtime under TLC, I won't visit this year as I find it utterly insulting. Confirming it at all would be nice, I'm still waiting on this "January" announcement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 The problem is that TLC is being used as a marketing tool because of the poor performance last year... Â Compare that to parks who do exactly the same thing every season and show it off on social media with little to no fanfare... Han30, MattyMoo and stretchy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretchy Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 The problem is that TLC is being used as a marketing tool because of the poor performance last year... Â Compare that to parks who do exactly the same thing every season and show it off on social media with little to no fanfare... I have repeatedly said this over the past few years. TLC should be an on-going thing. not a spring clean once every 10 years. Coaster and Han30 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFarmerDean Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 so they've now announced that only half of the nemesis station is being redone this closed season, and the other half next closed season... there's a reason why I'm sure... they've left it so bloody close to open season... I hope the repaint is finished on time, and not left half done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HermanTheGerman Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 I hope that doesn't mean the usual "its not happening". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterio Ka Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Imagine if half the station is left painted and the other, not.  I'd rather not. Celia Mae 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 They did say it would be a 3 year thing... Â Just thought that meant different projects would be done in that time, not individual ones... If this is true, then this shows the half arsed effort given out by the park... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 It will probably be because of Merlin's backwards budgeting system, that the options would either be to hire a cheap paint/decorator contractor to do the same short term patchy job as in previous years, or to hire scenic artists to fully restore it but only enough money for half in one go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Han30 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 A half done station - that'll look great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroDan Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 TLC is not a 1 year thing. The park are looking it having at as a permanent part of what they deliver and offer every year - which is good news, because Benin is right that this sort of thing should be typical of a normal year, not a special occasion. This year, there's so much going on around Alton Towers that you could be forgiven for thinking it was an EP maintenance programme. It's almost alien to see this sort of level of refurbishment at Alton!  The Nemesis re-paint is not all being done this winter, because the cost is too great and it is an enormous job. They have already spent the best part of £150,000 on Nemesis alone and the rest of it will have to wait - especially with everything else going on in Dark Forest, Cloud Cuckoo Land etc. There is also new audio coming to many areas, which will be heard in March.  It's easy to assume that TLC is some smoke and mirrors thing, but really - the park are making every effort to improve things across the entire place to make it better for guests after the low ebb of 2015.  When TLC was announced some people wrote it off as a lie. Hopefully the massive range of images posted on the Twitter feed have at least re-assured people that they are trying, and are spending, on this sort of stuff.  The closed rides at AT this year have not been announced - it is out of AT's hands and totally in those of Merlin. altongeek and SteveJ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFarmerDean Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 TLC is not a 1 year thing. The park are looking it having at as a permanent part of what they deliver and offer every year - which is good news, because Benin is right that this sort of thing should be typical of a normal year, not a special occasion. This year, there's so much going on around Alton Towers that you could be forgiven for thinking it was an EP maintenance programme. It's almost alien to see this sort of level of refurbishment at Alton!  The Nemesis re-paint is not all being done this winter, because the cost is too great and it is an enormous job. They have already spent the best part of £150,000 on Nemesis alone and the rest of it will have to wait - especially with everything else going on in Dark Forest, Cloud Cuckoo Land etc. There is also new audio coming to many areas, which will be heard in March.  It's easy to assume that TLC is some smoke and mirrors thing, but really - the park are making every effort to improve things across the entire place to make it better for guests after the low ebb of 2015.  When TLC was announced some people wrote it off as a lie. Hopefully the massive range of images posted on the Twitter feed have at least re-assured people that they are trying, and are spending, on this sort of stuff.  The closed rides at AT this year have not been announced - it is out of AT's hands and totally in those of Merlin.  When you say the nemesis repaint, do you mean the track as well!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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