Marc Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 On 1/8/2018 at 8:00 AM, MattyMoo said: Has the opening date been confirmed anywhere yet? Want to start planning a trip Also - just looking at the news articles - Sky mention the Smiler accident, obvs. One of the articles said that the logo was projected onto the London Eye. No it wasn't, it was photoshopped on. You can't project onto what is essentially a hollow circle, unless they temporarily covered the Eye with sheeting Expand I’m sure every mention of opening I’ve seen has said will be when park reopens on 17th March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobF Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 World first wood and fire .... I'm pretty sure woodan has fire effects at the top of the lift hill and arround the ride area ??? pognoi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeah Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 On 1/8/2018 at 9:08 AM, RobF said: World first wood and fire .... I'm pretty sure woodan has fire effects at the top of the lift hill and arround the ride area ??? Expand And Apocalypse pognoi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Dimensions Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Anyone's remember that Terminator Salvation coaster? Swear I saw videos of that with fire. pognoi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 On 1/8/2018 at 9:17 AM, 3Dimensions said: Anyone's remember that Terminator Salvation coaster? Swear I saw videos of that with fire. Expand That's correct, so this isn't even a world's first... Morons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMoo Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 17th March would be fab, cheers Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Interesting quote from the updated minisite... Quote A world-class team of experts continue to work on the new attraction, led by Great Coasters International, the world’s leading creators of wooden rollercoasters. The safety of guests has been paramount in the design and build of Wicker Man, incorporating the latest in proven safety technology, rigorous testing and hundreds of training hours for ride operators. Expand Perhaps not a surprise, though this is the first time they've really driven home the safety idea. Also, regarding the world's first, it's stupid - Galactica level stupid - but I guess their logic is how they've focused on the word 'fused'. I guess they're going to go with the idea of if there's enough fire effects, faux-fire effects, etc, that's a fusion, as opposed to just other wooden coasters which stick a flamethrower effect near a wooden coaster. As I say, Galactica level world first, but I did anyone expect any less? Also, some excerpts from the Press Release: Quote -The UK’s first new wooden coaster experience in 21 years, reconnecting riders with the primal essence of rollercoasters -Riders must be at least 1.2m tall, the track is 2,028 ft. (618m) long -Giant, flaming Wicker Man structure stands at six-storeys high (57.57ft / 17.55m) -Wicker Man has been in development for more than four years -Alton Towers Resort has invested £16m into the creation of Wicker Man -By launch, more than 1,000 people will have worked on the unique project, the majority coming from the local area Expand Genuinely think they should just focus on first UK woodie more than the world first. But some of those points are just so yawn-worthy and copy and paste from other PRs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 We love being safe, that's why we've stuck fire on a wooden structure after the last few years at our park being terrible because we can't train staff properly... JoshC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeah Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 On 1/8/2018 at 9:17 AM, 3Dimensions said: Anyone's remember that Terminator Salvation coaster? Swear I saw videos of that with fire. Expand Yeah that's the Apocalypse one I mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marhelorpe Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Hopefully these aren't the same 1,000 "specialists" that worked on DBGT. SteveJ, L7123456, onair and 3 others 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringo Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 On 1/8/2018 at 12:50 PM, Martin.C said: Hopefully these aren't the same 1,000 "specialists" that worked on DBGT. Expand No these 1,000 are just “world class” Quote World-class team constructing the ride lead by Great Coasters International, the world’s leading creators of wooden rollercoasters Expand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Shouldn't that be 'led' by GCI? Poor grammar is poor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaA Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 This is easily the worst Merlin marketing gimmick yet.. Galactica's at least was semi-true. Whatever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Ridiculous world first claim aside, I'm really looking forward to Wicker Man. Also, those visuals are amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 It's a stupid yet clever world's first claim. The claim is barley true and is just marketing nonsense while at the same time it gets people talking. It was trending on twitter this morning and sparked conversation because of the wood and fire aspect. Normally I think very little of Merlin's marketing however it is one of those rare instances where I think they have actually done a good job. JoshC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerfuffle Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 On 1/8/2018 at 7:30 PM, Project LC said: It was trending on twitter this morning and sparked conversation because of the wood and fire aspect. Expand "So Dave, how long before Alton Towers' latest "world's first" feature burns their new ride to the ground?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuntman707 Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 No, its not clever or even a valid world first at all. It's unoriginal from a CEO who will literally not approve new rides without a gimmick and a desperate attempt to make a themed wooden coaster seem more innovative and cutting edge than it actually is. It may be a unique and exciting experience but it is not a groundbreaking concept like the inverted flying coaster or dive coaster for example. Ringo, yeah and onair 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 My opinion on the ride remains unchanged. It looks like a wasted opportunity and has been targeted at completely the wrong people. All I'm saying is the marketing catch line has worked quite well at public engagement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuntman707 Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 I don't think they would have had to clutch at straws to get the same engagement though, just the fact its a new woodie in the UK and the first ever at Alton Towers would have been enough. Certainly for people who have been asking for one. Just a shame they finally built one after Wardley had been trying to convince them for years to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 236 Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 If you ignore the World’s First claims it actually looks a very decent roller coaster and the concept art shows great potential. Wicker Man if done correctly will be the perfect ride to fill in some of the gap currently at Towers and perhaps offer something of a unique experience for many of ages. Icon and Wicker are both completely different type rides but I remain excited for both in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 It won't though, because once again a perfectly acceptable family coaster has got a dark theme that will alienate the majority of it's target audience... Ringo and Martin Doyle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Doyle Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 This will be the customary pre ride photo op!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetmagix Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 I'm in agreement with most about the stupidity of it being a 'worlds first' but then it would it be an SW if it didn't have a 'worlds first' element? Remember that neither RITA or Spinball had Secret Weapon codenames. As it stands I'm willing to give Merlin the benefit of the doubt until I've ridden it, it may genuinely be a worlds first. Talking of the dark theme though: Thirteen has a dark theme and is lapped up by the public. Attendance went up massively and it still remains one of the most popular rides in the park. Merlin are using the same tactics here because, as far as they were concerned, the marketing worked perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 Nemesis wasn't a world's first (neither was Air technically)... SW has just become a marketing tool for them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 Wasn't Nemesis advertised as a European first whilst Air was definitely advertised as worlds first. This 'worlds first' stuff can only work so many times and when its wheeled out for every. single. attraction then it just looks like overblown bluster. Especially when they get more and more tenuous. I think marketing worked for Thirteen at first, it backfired and now because of its low height restriction, is available to a lot of people as a first step towards the more intense rides. Thats how I see Wicker Man going down, people love wooden coasters which is why its so frustrating that its been so long to get one built. JoshuaA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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