October 13, 201212 yr comment_142536 Lodda concrete being poured in. Construction of the buildings atleast has started roller coaster parts should be there soon
October 14, 201212 yr comment_142576 Lodda concrete being poured in. Let's hope it doesn't get washed away again
October 14, 201212 yr comment_142610 I'm pretty convinced that it wasn't washed away. Mixing concrete so sloppy that it would run away is pretty moronic and also, more importantly, theres nowhere for it to wash away too. The ground is clay based, so reasonably resistant to drainage. You can't see the concrete purely due to the rain washing mud over the set concrete.
October 15, 201212 yr comment_142630 SW7 Statistics have been revealed thanks to the local newspaper of staffordshire! It states that: The maximum speed of SW7 will be 85kph (just above 50mph) The highest drop is 30m It will have an track length of 1,170m And will last a whole 165 secs But the most interesting point is that it will have an capacity of 64 people per a ride! Now that begs the question.. how?! Credits to TST & The Sentinel for the information provided
October 15, 201212 yr comment_142632 SW7 certainly beats most rides in length and looks to be very fast for the size of it height wise
October 15, 201212 yr comment_142633 I can only guess that it means 64 people on the ride at any one time? (When all trains are full)
October 15, 201212 yr comment_142635 SW7 Statistics have been revealed thanks to the local newspaper of staffordshire! It states that: The maximum speed of SW7 will be 85kph (just above 50mph) The highest drop is 30m It will have an track length of 1,170m And will last a whole 165 secs But the most interesting point is that it will have an capacity of 64 people per a ride! Now that begs the question.. how?! Credits to TST & The Sentinel for the information provided Same as Saw, which means you've got the old Gerstlauer cars. Basically it's eight cars with eight seats. I'm guessing that's how they added it up. Keep in mind the "local newspaper of staffordshire" mightn't have inquired specifically about hourly capacity because, to a non-enthusiast, this figure is relatively pointless. My guess therefore is that the newspaper asked about "how many trains" there were or words to that effect, to which the park representative would've outlined that there were eight, each carrying eight people, and this was given the term "capacity" without the newspaper realising that to us enthusiasts, capacity is a whole different figure. To the readers though, it makes perfect sense.
October 15, 201212 yr comment_142638 This makes me wonder why TST are having a massive debate about new trains when I've just released 8 trains full of 8 riders = 64 people! Thank you Sidders! I guess the rumour about SW7 having normal Gerstlauer trains was true!
October 15, 201212 yr comment_142639 This makes me wonder why TST are having a massive debate about new trains when I've just released 8 trains full of 8 riders = 64 people! Thank you Sidders! I guess the rumour about SW7 having normal Gerstlauer trains was true! Because TST like to think they're cleverer than TPM just because they're closer to Alton.
October 15, 201212 yr comment_142643 Regarding the cars, I don't know if I should spoiler this or not but have done just in case. Let's just hope they turn out to be the "standard Gerstlauer cars" just like Iron Shark with lap bars then eh!? There's still a whole load of mystery in this project and it's actually getting quite exciting now!
October 15, 201212 yr comment_142644 So... People wheere complaining that Swarms track started late... the footers haven't even been laid for this!? I've not been following the project at all but is there a reason for this?
October 15, 201212 yr comment_142646 Unless I'm thinking about this completely incorrectly, 165 second ride plus, say, 30-40 second loading, checking restraints, etc., with 64 (maximum) going around in all the cars leads to a theoretical throughput of about 1100-1200pph? (This is at a complete guess of course, and no doubt there's things I'm not taking into consideration, but I guess we should be expecting at least 1000pph for this with the given information) As for the Tinie's comment, I guess not following the project means you're not aware of a couple of things, such as how the amount of digging done is different to that that's on the plans (I think?), as well as a couple of weather issues. However, it certainly seems behind schedule, with the plans stating vertical construction would begin September time, and then a rumoured date of 1st October floated about, but that also seems to have not happened. I guess we have to bare in mind that Gerstlauers do go up quickly, but it could well still be a push to get it back on schedule, if it is indeed behind schedule!
October 15, 201212 yr comment_142647 The fact the park has now officially made a countdown to the opening it must be on shedule to open on opening day otherwise we will see many complaints on the 16th March. But if we have a cold, snowy winter it could quite easily be delayed.
October 15, 201212 yr comment_142648 Unless I'm thinking about this completely incorrectly, 165 second ride plus, say, 30-40 second loading, checking restraints, etc., with 64 (maximum) going around in all the cars leads to a theoretical throughput of about 1100-1200pph? (This is at a complete guess of course, and no doubt there's things I'm not taking into consideration, but I guess we should be expecting at least 1000pph for this with the given information) 165 seconds is a fair bit longer than Saw isnt it? and that is actually impossible to hit the advertised 1200 (I believe Thorpe were not happy and Gerstlauer came in to try make it possible and they couldnt) and that gets around 1000pph.
October 15, 201212 yr comment_142653 165 seconds is a fair bit longer than Saw isnt it? and that is actually impossible to hit the advertised 1200 (I believe Thorpe were not happy and Gerstlauer came in to try make it possible and they couldnt) and that gets around 1000pph. Saw is approx. 100 seconds (for the second car including the on-ride pre-show), which is what makes me think I'm completely wrong with my logic. I guess the throughput will depend on many other things, such as loading and offloading times, whether it's dual-loading, any special elements, etc., so of course it's hard to tell at this stage what it will be. The thing is, I can't see Alton going for a coaster with a (theoretical) throughput of under 1000, but, I dunno, it seems a bit more likely the more you think about it... :S
October 15, 201212 yr comment_142655 This makes me wonder why TST are having a massive debate about new trains when I've just released 8 trains full of 8 riders = 64 people! Thank you Sidders! I guess the rumour about SW7 having normal Gerstlauer trains was true! I am not sure it's entirely accurate that these will be the same as Saw's cars. I was under the impression these will be two of them joined together, I.e. 16 per ride.
October 17, 201212 yr comment_142774 As pointed out to me earlier: "Next year we are busy doing more classics like hybrid coaster trains and Bobsled Coasters, but also some more firsts, such as our newly-designed 8-passenger launch vehicles.” - Gertslauer Full article here: http://www.rideenter...nto-the-future
October 17, 201212 yr comment_142775 8 passenger launch vehicles? Fluch? Iron Shark lapbar cars though would be much approved... Probs won't happen but still... Do want...
October 17, 201212 yr comment_142780 The ride is definitely 16 per train. It is on the Alton press site. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3 by Tapatalk
October 17, 201212 yr comment_142781 The press statement mentioned by Dan: In March 2013, the Alton Towers Resort will launch its biggest ever ride. The first of its kind in the world, the rollercoaster will be the biggest ever investment for a ride at the Resort. Whilst many of the details are still a closely guarded secret, here are a few exclusive facts about the ride, codenamed Secret Weapon 7! Highest drop – 30m Maximum speed – approx 85km/hr which is 10km/hr faster than Air Track length – 1,170m. This is 3x the length of Oblivion Ride time – 165 seconds which is 3x the ride time of Rita Passengers per ride train – 16 (4x rows of 4) Minimum rider height – 1.4m Location – X Sector, on the site of the old Black Hole ride Investment for the Resort - £18m Opening date – 16th March 2013 http://press.altontowers.com/news-alton-towers-resort-to-launch-world-first-rollercoaster-in-2013-11705 - Link 4 rows of 4 is...interesting to say the least. (As a side note, with the track length being confirmed as 1170m, is that around the same to what was on the plans? Presumably people who've done No Limits recreations know the outside length track, and that may give an indication to how long the inside section is?)
October 17, 201212 yr comment_142784 4 rows of 4? Perhaps it won't be a Gerstlauer - http://www.maurer-rides.com/x-coaster/x-train/
October 17, 201212 yr comment_142788 ^I pressume it might look like 2 eurofighter cars stuck together. Though I hope it won't.
October 17, 201212 yr comment_142793 ''The first of its kind in the world'' So it is a worlds first! Hope it turns out better than thirteen!
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