Chaz Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Is it possible to have a ride under the swarm??? Or are the supports to deep? Supports aren't deep- they attach to the footers above ground level. Why would you want a ride under the Swarm? Do you mean under ground? Impossible; it's infilled land. That's why there's no tunnels or anything, it can't be done. GOOSEANIMATICS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 He means under the ride itself, not underground... Besides, there's no space there for an accompanying ride and resultant cattlepen... GOOSEANIMATICS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 I believe that the marquee is staying exactly where it is. http://planning.runn...&DAURI=PLANNING Thorpe applied for a 'Permanent retention' of the marquee last year, which was approved by the council (I assume it was constructed with temporary permission or something?). It post-dates the MTDP which stated the area could potentially be used for a round ride or themed experience; so it is staying. As Benin said, there really just is not enough room on Swarm's island to have a ride underneath the Swarm. Include into that a queue line and such, it would be pretty much impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javs Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 OK so its September and we still have no clue what TP are installing next year! Come on people, get digging! We are losing our touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 If they can't afford a few bangers are they really going to find the money for a new attraction? Another year trading off The Swarm I guess, which is probably better then a half arsed/poorly funded effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 OK so its September and we still have no clue what TP are installing next year! Come on people, get digging! We are losing our touch. It's the SECOND of the month... Give the park a chance to actually decide on what the next step is (unsurprisingly, it's not simple to design/build a new attraction)... The park will reveal things in their own time when ready... Who knows what's going on inside the Studios on here? No one... Besides, do we not like to be surprised by new rides or MUST we know EVERYTHING these days? Of course, does the park NEED a new ride? I'd rather the park have a set out well planned new ride than another Storm Surge... If they can't afford a few bangers are they really going to find the money for a new attraction? Another year trading off The Swarm I guess, which is probably better then a half arsed/poorly funded effort. Different department, different budget, different situation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 OK so its September and we still have no clue what TP are installing next year! Come on people, get digging! We are losing our touch. Aren't we getting that snoozebox hotel? I'd be surprised if any other ride is installed, but feel free to surprise me Thorpe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Different department, different budget, different situation... Same company, same problems. Has there still been no word on the fate of Vengeance? Someone somewhere must be getting it. I hope it's not us, it wouldn't cope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Same company, same problems. Has there still been no word on the fate of Vengeance? Someone somewhere must be getting it. I hope it's not us, it wouldn't cope. I guess it's similar in all the parks in the world, each department gets it's own separate budget and outlays, just an easier way to run the system around... Vengeance could work in a theme park situation if it had about 20 pre shows beforehand... It seats 40 odd doesn't it? And it would plug a big gap in Thorpe's line up in a potentially decent dark ride if (a big one at that) done well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidders Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 It's the SECOND of the month... Give the park a chance to actually decide on what the next step is (unsurprisingly, it's not simple to design/build a new attraction)... The park will reveal things in their own time when ready... That said, it wouldn't be too much of mistake to assume that, if Thorpe are planning anything, they would have decided on the ride/location/theme/potential marketing by now. I think javs was waiting on the only real 'if' remaining were they planning anything, which would be council consent. To me, it doesn't look likely that we'll get anything new. Snooze Box isn't a cheap investment regardless of it's poor comparison to a genuine hotel, and in light of Thorpe Blast/Blow Sh!t Up not returning, it seem even more unlikely. To be honest though, I see Thorpe's sense on this one. I don't want another Storm Surge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam T Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 For an dark ride Sub-Terra's planning wasn't untill late august but Thorpe Park has never had trouble with planning so they can afford to send it in late so I expect some news if for a dark ride to be at least sent this month but maybe not at all because if its going in the old time Time Voyagers they don't need to build a need to apply for planning permission like Ice Age 4D didn't, but I don't think a Vengeance won't be will bad! It would look good lined up next to snoozebox for 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Coaster Man Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Having recently made a trip (or pilgrimage) to Alton Towers, I believe that a Sub Terra ride would fit the park perfectly. It wouldn't cost that much (in theme park terms) and would be a great addition to The Swarm (or Nemesis Inferno; We've found another egg). That said it looks like we could just be stuck with a snoozebox (which I won't visit because I live 3 minutes from the park). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Don't forget that Saw Alive wasn't announced until Fright Nights begun, and not officially named until late October, with plans not even submitted until November. If the 4D theatre is to be used for a new attraction next season, then it could well be the case that all that needs to be built is a queue line, VERY similar to Alive's planning application, and then there's no real rush. There's still many possibilities for new attractions for next season, so I don't think there's too much cause for concern yet. 2013 is meant to be a medium investment for the park next year; whether this includes the Snoozebox is unknown at this stage.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy3112 Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I say they leave it for a year. But then again this could be my complete naivety about Thorpe Parks business plans. Personally, I don't get why there has to be a new ride/attraction every year? UnderItAll and Sidders 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles1 Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 there's a view at Merlin that you need something new for people to come back. It's why for a long while Legoland was retheming lands every year. one year when alton towers didn't add anything attendance went down (I think) so they're now convinced it makes a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Well, it kinda does make sense... New things allow you something to push to a high degree to both new and returning guests... Problem is, there's a lot of other factors that do affect guest numbers, such a prices, atmosphere, how good a day out feels, etc... Indeed, even with Swarm this year, numbers haven't particularly risen, but that might be a result of crap weather, Olympics, or people just not wanting to fork out for a relatively depressing queue filled day... New rides/attractions are good to have though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC! Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 When Thorpe Park announced plans for flat rides has it always been very very late in the year or has it been around this time because if its around this time then I think their only development will be the snooze boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Normally flat ride plans for the following season would've been released by now, though it really does depend on the ride type, height, size, location, etc. However, there's still a possibility for a new attraction next season. For example, Saw Alive's application wasn't made till November 2009. So, we could still see development next season past the Snooze Boxes; only time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 If they choose to do something inside the old pirates building there could potentially be no application at all I guess, so the first we'd know would be when promotion starts. Although even with that I'm sure they'd like to start the 'come back next year for xxxx' on park promotion by now, so probably nothing but the shoe boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Doughty Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Remove stage area next to X No way out, and Add Huss Giant Swing. Theme it around 60's-70's Disco but with the Tsunami as a name! or Tornado/Twister It would fit perfectly and be a massive hit. Even though they have 2 other swing they might have to say 'Farewell to Vortex' But as everyone must agree this huss swings are much better. a larger version of Maelstrom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 Depends on the height of the ride, I believe they aren't allowed a structure that exceeds 25 meters, would be fun though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenVig Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 There wont be a 2013 Ride, I put money on it. The Swarm will receive further marketing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge2002 Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 I'd be happy with a nice spruce up to be honest. The hotel, although not the best scenario, is an attraction nonetheless, and shows they're not willing to let the park go a whole year without attention. They've done some impressive things this year with the park, and if they have the same mindset throughout the closed season, I could see great things happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 The hotel is an attraction? Not for an extra £100 a night it isn't... BigBobJones, Inferno, Sidders and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBobJones Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 For most people the Snoozebox hotel is is poor sign that Thorpe doesn't have it finger on the pulse or Merlin doesn't want to spend the cash on it. I went to Chessington yesterday, their hotel looks amazing and they are just going to extend it with an additional 69 rooms. Legoland have a good hotel, Alton have two hotels.. how can four parks owned by the same company be run so differently? Apart from the Swarm and I can't fault what they have done there, Thorpe just doesn't seem to get the money spent on it. They need to get in a new ride for next year, even if it is a flat, they need to add something. If they don't add a new ride, what else are they going to do to attract people? I'm sure the ticket price will go up again next year, so as a paying customer, what extra will I get from Thorpe, when Chessington round the corner will have Zufari and Alton will have SW7 pulling in people by the thousands..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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