JoshC. Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 I heard something about the roots of the trees causing problems with Samurai itself, so all of the trees needed complete removal; can't remember where though, so could be complete rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerfuffle Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Well, they need to be replanted, just a bit smaller will do the job nicely and safely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattgwise Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Only managed to open for about an hour today. They tried to reopen it a few times after several test cycles but each time after around 1 or 2 cycles with people it stopped again. It spent most of the day slowly rotating in the loading position, and engineers were clearly trying to sort it most of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Well, they need to be replanted, just a bit smaller will do the job nicely and safely You say that, but with the problems samurai seems to have I do wonder how long it will be there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastercameron98 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 You say that, but with the problems samurai seems to have I do wonder how long it will be there Stupid really it was refurbed or completely checked over at the end of last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Buy a new topscan my opinion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattgwise Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Year I would say buy a new one too. Everyone says they aren't designed to run constantly in theme park environments, but thinking about it. It was opened originally in 1999 and its only been the last 4 or 5 years its started to bugger about, so they could buy a new one and have it last at least another ten years, maybe longer as after all in 1999 topscans were relatively new meaning they are probably built better now. It is a very popular ride at Thorpe Park and I always here people talk about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPJames Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Only managed to open for about an hour today. They tried to reopen it a few times after several test cycles but each time after around 1 or 2 cycles with people it stopped again. It spent most of the day slowly rotating in the loading position, and engineers were clearly trying to sort it most of the day.Nowa days samurai only opens for a couple of months before it breaks down and they have to close it for a while. Even with the rubbish settings samurai is on, I still enjoy it. I can't really see samurai staying at thorpe for much longer with the issues it has so as everyone says I think the only thing thorpe can and should do is to completely replace it with a newer model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 236 Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 I think Samurai should be replaced in 2014 because the ride is getting old and has been at the park nearly ten years now in addition to the five years it had at Chessington which is why next year would be a good time to replace and update Samurai. Who knows, maybe thorpe could market the new model and just say Samurai new and improved for 2014 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Year I would say buy a new one too. Everyone says they aren't designed to run constantly in theme park environments, but thinking about it. It was opened originally in 1999 and its only been the last 4 or 5 years its started to bugger about, so they could buy a new one and have it last at least another ten years, maybe longer as after all in 1999 topscans were relatively new meaning they are probably built better now. It is a very popular ride at Thorpe Park and I always here people talk about it. It was 'buggering' about after 4 years of hard operation at Chessington, for example it spent a lot of 2003 closed for maintenance as it was being run into the ground. They thought the refurbishment would extend its life a lot longer then it has proven to. Whilst a new one would make sense, I would hope that Thorpe are slightly more ambitious with a replacement ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC! Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 I'd love a Huss Delirium but I think that would be too big for any part of the park I'd prefer to see Samurai stay on maybe theme it to go with Canada Creek or Saw Island. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammydodger Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 For me, samurai and rush are the best flat rides in the park. I would much rather say goodbye to vortex or slammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkadder312 Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 yea I would love a brand new modiel top scan and have it on good settings from the word go but have admit it has got better since last season with oiled seats and seems abit longer now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.S217 Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 As far as I know it is Broken as of Since 12:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPJames Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 For me, samurai and rush are the best flat rides in the park. I would much rather say goodbye to vortex or slammer.Since when are we getting rid of samurai? Just to say, slammer is amazing and it beats vortex and samurai in my opinion anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Since when are we getting rid of samurai? If you read the few posts above there is a discussion about how knackered it is and how long it will last. Since then. I know it is all speculation, but something must be quite seriously wrong the way it has been behaving so far this year. I'd be happy with I direct replacement if they could run it properly, but unless they are now manufactured more robustly I think that would be unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 I've found that the pods rotate more easily this season, not sure whether that's down to not riding it in a while or whether the pods have had a bit of attention over closed season though.. Samurai is still quite a popular attraction, so it's unlikely it would be outright replaced or removed. What would the cost of a new topscan be though? And would it be worthwhile enough to see a difference in the way it's run and how long the park would want to keep the attraction? To be honest, I think we won't see it replaced by a newer model any time soon, because it will either lead to an increase in cost (which, of course, no business really wants), or replacing it instead of doing something else, which in itself could cause issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Samurai is still quite a popular attraction, so it's unlikely it would be outright replaced or removed. What would the cost of a new topscan be though? And would it be worthwhile enough to see a difference in the way it's run and how long the park would want to keep the attraction? To be honest, I think we won't see it replaced by a newer model any time soon, because it will either lead to an increase in cost (which, of course, no business really wants), or replacing it instead of doing something else, which in itself could cause issues. I dont think it would be worthwhile in the way that its run (I suspect it would still be run slower than it could be) but in terms of the rides reliability and engineers man hours spent on it it may well be worth it. We saw them replace Zodiac (All be it with a 2nd hand model) for simular reasons, it wouldnt surprise me to much if they did this with Samurai. JoshC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Yes they should replace samurai.... With a top spin MattyMoo and BigBobJones 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerfuffle Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Went to Thorpe today. Samurai was closed for pretty much the whole day, cos those copper magnets that propel the ride were damaged. I was told someone had thrown something onto it and it got jammed. How very careless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 I dont think it would be worthwhile in the way that its run (I suspect it would still be run slower than it could be) but in terms of the rides reliability and engineers man hours spent on it it may well be worth it. We saw them replace Zodiac (All be it with a 2nd hand model) for simular reasons, it wouldnt surprise me to much if they did this with Samurai. Zodiac (the I) was a knackered old funfair ride. Zodiac (the II) was a brand new model from Huss. And lets be frank here, the motions an enterprise goes through are nothing in comparison to a top scan being run on even a low setting. We would literally be seeing history repeat itself if a new top scan was to be introduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFarmerDean Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Yup, Samurai was closed all day... was watching it for a while, and it really couldn't park in line at the end of the ride before the arm is lowered back down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPJames Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 Yup, Samurai was closed all day... was watching it for a while, and it really couldn't park in line at the end of the ride before the arm is lowered back down!When I visited a couple of weeks ago it was having issues with parking(as it always does) but this time it seemed a lot worse. We were riding and we spent about 5 mins trying to park and then the operator decided to try and re-park us by taking us back up to the top. We then spent another few minutes trying to park before we actually lowered. Most people were shouting to be let off but ovbiously no one seems to realise the issues samurai has... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFarmerDean Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 it didn't seem to be taking that long, a minute or 2 max I suppose, but it was (presumably) manually moved back up, to come back down to try again... must have been so annoying stuck on it like that, better off they keep it closed until they can sort it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMoo Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 It was having parking issues back on the Swarm ERT meet in March - not good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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