Topsyturvy15 Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 X retheme still makes sense to link the ride to the club nights/ special events. Could be another opportunity for cheap and effective advertising! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinxy Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/424373_327372647373846_1568725804_n.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBobJones Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 New for 2014, we have turned the back to rows forwards but turned rows 4 and 5 backwards...... hmm running out of ideas here, lets add a double decker bus or a train as we are running out of ideas. Or leave it as it was.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 I believe XNWO will see it's first height restriction change as of 2013 due to changes in the trains. Second. Definitely had a raised height restriction in late 90s! Ricky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy3112 Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 I'm really not on board with this backwards Swarm thing. But I guess I won't be able to judge until I give it a go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 I disagree with the naming of this thread. Improvements indeed. Fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Better? pluk and Sidders 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zalittleguy Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/424373_327372647373846_1568725804_n.png I swear on those points, one said 5 inversions... Am I being thick, cos I swear there are only 4... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPJames Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 I swear on those points, one said 5 inversions... Am I being thick, cos I swear there are only 4... The tilt inclined loop counts as an inversion although it doesn't seem like one, just like the overbanked turn on saw except that isn't counted as an inversion- hard to tell what is an inversion and what is not because on that inclined loop you do not go upside down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 They class the inclined loop as an inversion for marketing purposes pretty much, even though it doesn't really invert you. So you've then got the inverted drop, zero-G roll, inclined loop, corkscrew and inline twist. Edit: Beaten to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 "The ride contains a series of twists and turns which range from between 30.6 and 20.2 metres in height. There are 4 inversions in total." Taken from total thorpe park EDIT: Remember this: Adam Kehoe asked: Q. Will The Swarm ever be released backwards to give thrill riders a more terrifying experience as they face war? A. One of the most thrilling elements of THE SWARM is the deliberate close proximity of the ride to the various near miss elements around the track guests wont truly know they are far enough away until theyve safely made it past! Running the train backwards would means these near misses wouldnt be seen until the guests had travelled beyond them, and the ride would therefore actually be less scary. Numerous components on the train would also have to be modified, making it very technically challenging. Adam P and JackR 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 I'm actually pretty excited about going on The Swarm backwards, yeah It's a bit gimmicky ... but It's definitely not enough to pull guests through the gates. X retheme would be call... X has had its day and as much as everyone hates to admit it, it will never go back to the way it was, that ended years ago, the club/music theme on X would be awesome I think! I remember at Thorpe Blast '08 meet (Good times ) They had music on it then and it was loads of fun! Personally I think that'd be better than how it has been in recent years. But hey maybe I'm just their target market (who some of you love to hate) Ryan and OldFarmerDean 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holtjammy16 Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Adam Kehoe asked:Q. Will The Swarm ever be released backwards to give thrill riders a more terrifying experience as they face war? A. One of the most thrilling elements of THE SWARM is the deliberate close proximity of the ride to the various near miss elements around the track guests wont truly know they are far enough away until theyve safely made it past! Running the train backwards would means these near misses wouldnt be seen until the guests had travelled beyond them, and the ride would therefore actually be less scary. Numerous components on the train would also have to be modified, making it very technically challenging. #Exposed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinxy Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 I wonder what the actual technicalities of the changing of the 2 back rows consist of? I would assume B&M would need to be in contact with the park or the ones who modify the trains. I always thought B&M disliked backwards though...and what with X being backwards this seems like a complete waste to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboywunda Posted January 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 I didn't think it was possible, but I've fallen out of love with Thorpe. It's one gimmick too far - They were skating on thin ice any-way. We all knew that they'd find a way to ruin their best ride to date... It didn't take long BigBobJones, Benin, Adam P and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeksy Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Can't believe its actually happening! Genuinely thought it was Thorpe having a laugh at us! Coming next, Stealth... backwards. Actually that'd be quite cool. Totally impossible though for the stresses on the body with no support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Being thrown into those Intamin restraints </3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Users Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 If backwards Swarm is successful, I can see the back row of Oblivion reversing. Sort of want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokesyboy Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Wouldn't really be much point in turning Oblivion backwards as the whole idea of "Don't Look Down" wouldn't be visible or effective, still the same could be said about The Swarm's near misses etc. I'm still going for the Ministry of Sound re theme of X: No Way out to be mentioned soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 The Swarm can be turned backwards because of the very design of the wing rider. The seats are suspended from the central chassis, right? Even then it isn't as easy as just swapping a few seats around. But the seats on Oblivion are built into the shuttle in rows, so significant modifications to the cars and station would be needed. It wouldn't be comfortable falling down the drop either, since the force would push you into your restraint rather than the seat. Also, backwards Oblivion would be the height of pointless gimmickery anyway. It would ruin... everything... for the sake of being able to see behind you as you drop. "Don't look up"? What? Backwards Swarm sounds rather fun, to be honest. A random idea, the type of pointless 8-year old's daydream that you would find suggested on the internet, but they seem to know what they are doing. If it wasn't practical and safe then they would not being going through with it; they have probable consulted B&M about it. I don't mind the redundancy of the interactive theming items, as they would still be partially effective seeing them fly around and away from you as you travel backwards. I hope they take this opportunity to further improve the Swarm in general. I know they were gradually bringing in more props and theme objects, but it still felt rather inconsistent theme-wise with big gaps of emptiness and an obvious lack of landscaping. If they could properly programme the flame, sound effects and water sprays then the rhythm of the ride could be fantastic. Dan9 and Ryan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Wouldn't really be much point in turning Oblivion backwards as the whole idea of "Don't Look Down" wouldn't be visible or effective, still the same could be said about The Swarm's near misses etc. I'm still going for the Ministry of Sound re theme of X: No Way out to be mentioned soon! Yeah, the whole point of the swarm is near misses and you ain't gunna be seeing them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Freefalling downwards whilst staring up at the sky, the track speeds away from beneath you and as you enter the hole darkness closes in all around you. Mmm, The back row of Oblivion backwards sounds good. I don't know I just have this slow motion vision of it being great although I can't deny that the 'don't look down' theme wouldn't fit anymore. But you say that as if turning the back two rows on The Swarm backwards makes any sense either? I'm keen for backwards B&M; don't knock it until you try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Well, at least The Swarm: Mutated will probably be open on time Thats right Alton towers #thesmiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Backwards Oblivion? Cornflakes, Inferno, Luke_A and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackR Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Is The Swarm now being marketed as 'The Swarm: Mutated'? Not to sound like too much of a whinny enthusiast, but if so then I give up with Thorpe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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