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Derren Brown's Ghost Train: Rise of the Demon

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47 minutes ago, Cornflakes said:

wow, lots of people continue to have the wrong opinion about this ride. some of you just can't stop hating a ride designed by a gay man, hmm wonder why? 

 

sucks that the demon isn't around hope they bring him back

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're saying those who dislike the ride are homophobes? 

 

I'd like to know what you like about the ride?

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1 hour ago, Cornflakes said:

wow, lots of people continue to have the wrong opinion about this ride. some of you just can't stop hating a ride designed by a gay man, hmm wonder why? 

 

sucks that the demon isn't around hope they bring him back

That’s amazing, so people can’t dislike the ride without being labelled homophobic. 

 

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1 hour ago, Wicker Matt said:

Thorpe fans be like.
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That meme has been completely destroyed. It was a sleeper hit for months and then boom, now its even a Loggers Leap meme.

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I think it is such a shame more isn’t made of looking at the suspended carriage. I don’t understand why they got Derren to pose from this angle when we never get to see if from there. Would be awesome to start off looking up and then going up the stairs.

 

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It's so weird, as a really great idea could've been to have you queue under it (though trying that without breaking the illusion would be difficult)...

 

Another box checked off the badly designed ride checklist though...

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The reality is that photo is photo shopped, since from that angle you would in real life be able to see the illusion techniques (mirrors) and the ride mechanism from there

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The reality is that photo is photo shopped, since from that angle you would in real life be able to see the illusion techniques (mirrors) and the ride mechanism from there



Just zoomed in on his face and some of it is missing the shop is so bad


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The big giveaway in that photo is the curved window.

12 hours ago, Benin said:

It's so weird, as a really great idea could've been to have you queue under it (though trying that without breaking the illusion would be difficult)...

 

Another box checked off the badly designed ride checklist though...

From very early on, it was never planned to be viewed or accessible from beneath the ride. Whether that was just a "we don't want people entering from ground-level" idea or "we consulted the illusionist and they said entering from ground-level is impossible" I don't know.

 

But having seen how the illusion was designed, and how it looks from ground level, I'd be very surprised if it could ever have been designed to be viewed from beneath the train carriage in any way.

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How it is today, rushing past the train in a blocky room where you only see the floor beneath you for a few seconds (if you bother to look over the side while you get the chance), is really not the best way the illusion could have been designed. It may not be possible to stand directly underneath, but they designed themselves into a corner with the whole thing really.

There's always other techniques when it comes to illusion to give the impression there's more than there really is. With DBGT its the other way round,  things are so badly thought through that you actually miss the best bits.

For all that effort and an amazing concept, how it turned out is almost pointless in my opinion. Much like the whole ride.

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29 minutes ago, SteveJ said:

I still think "It will completely change what theme parks can do" with that smug face is one of the all time classic theme park moments in this country

Ratigan: "Oh! I can just see that insufferable grin on his smug face!" (The Great Mouse Detective) Well, at least both the film, and the Ghost Train, are literally Victorian. Pun intended.

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On 11/16/2019 at 12:31 PM, Hethetheth said:

The shop ending used to be cool until it was replaced with a man in a shirt.

Yeah I noticed that - why did that happen?

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Some of the things that have gone wrong with this attraction I have sympathy for Thorpe Park. Not like they can get a new demon costume on Amazon Prime and get it next day as it must be a bespoke outfit. The middle bit going wrong all the time so having to replace it. Shame they couldn’t think of a different way of doing it rather than a strobe maze.

But having such rubbish VR scenes, rushing people into the carriage when seeing the carriage is one of the best set pieces is just asking for bad reviews.


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I have limited sympathies though as it still relates to the design of the ride in the first place.

 

When a pirate in Pirates of the Caribbean breaks the ride is still pretty much a good experience. The experience does not lean heavily on one animatronic.

 

If the demon suit breaks or VR doesn't work (or the train crash scene fails and is replaced by metal fences) then the entire DBGT experience is ruined instantly. At the end the day the attraction is essentially a projection of Derren Brown, a hanging train set piece, 2 videos, a bunch of metal fences and a man jumping out at you.

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