jessica2 Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 10 hours ago, Han30 said: Agree - I actually quite like Colossus (this is quite controversial but I prefer it over Inferno) BUT in all honesty I can't see them getting new trains or getting a paint job - God knows how much that would cost and if they would even want to invest in it - I'd also like to see the medusa pit looking nice and clean again but its been skanky for years! My most recent ride on Colossus was beyond painful but then I was near the back - usually I find it much better nearer the front. Would be so much better with lap bars - no head banging! I actually can't choose between the two, I feel nemesis inferno would be great if it went on a bit longer, always feels too short! So for that reason I'd also go for Colossus. I also don't think they'll do anything to spruce up Colossus because it gives it that weather beaten, old look. But adding a couple of new things like the fire effect in the swarm but theming it to the lost city would be cool, like a water feature or something! Usually its just a few rain puddles on the floor lol.... Han30 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 236 Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 I think Taron style trains with the new Intamin style restraints, would do wonders for this ride and make it considerably more comftable and enjoyable as a whole. unfortunately though, can't this happening anytime soon, which is a shame as the ride is remarkably rough in its current state, unless you are upfront. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LK_ Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 A retrack like Altair would be ideal, but it aint gonna happen lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pognoi Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 A retracking is a short term improvement - they really need more stable foundations which would be quite a feat to achieve. The track would become equally as rough within 5 years or so. LK_ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olistjj Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 I got told on a backstage tour from an engineer that the reason intamins and geratlauers are rougher in comparison to B&Ms is because the track itself (two steel tubes that the wheels sit on specifically) is hollow whereas B&Ms tubing is solid steel. He said however this means that intamins & gerstlauers generally can produce more speed with less comfort whilst B&Ms are more comfortable but generally have less speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pognoi Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 That has very little to do with the roughness of the rides, per example. The roughness for saw & Colossus in particular comes from the fact that they both sit on reclaimed, and sinking, land. Gerst, intamin, and mack all have the capability of producing silky smooth rides, even more so then some B&Ms, however there are countless factors that play a part in how smooth a ride is, which may effect specific track designs more then others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olistjj Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 now I don't know about any of them factors but I'm sure they definitely play a part, but he explained that hollow tubing creates more vibration through the track and on the wheels which transfers up through the train carriage. pognoi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt A Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 The entirety of Thorpe Park is reclaimed land! (Or well reclaimed gravel pit ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt10 Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 The land for Colossus was reclaimed after the rest of the park, and has had issues with sinking and becoming waterlogged ever since it was reclaimed. Matt A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieN Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 On 28/09/2016 at 0:31 AM, Han30 said: Agree - I actually quite like Colossus (this is quite controversial but I prefer it over Inferno) BUT in all honesty I can't see them getting new trains or getting a paint job - God knows how much that would cost and if they would even want to invest in it - I'd also like to see the medusa pit looking nice and clean again but its been skanky for years! My most recent ride on Colossus was beyond painful but then I was near the back - usually I find it much better nearer the front. Would be so much better with lap bars - no head banging! I'm a big fan of Colossus actually. I prefer it to both saw and Stealth (I know I have an odd opinion). I don't actually recall having an agonisingly rough ride on it - not that that could be said for Saw which seems to bruise me all over. New trains would definitely be a positive change and one that I'd like to see soon. However, I don't think Colossus will last much longer as it's throughout is low and footprint has the potential for something much bigger and better. I give it until 2021... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlesberg Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 I generally enjoy Colossus, but my last ride was dreadful (I was in about row 4). I purposely left some space between me and the restraint for comfort, but during the first drop the harness just tightenend up way too much. This made the ride needlessly uncomfortable. So far, the only times I've enjoyed it this year are in the front row. This thing needs a repaint and/or a change of trains as it's only going to get worse, I honestly find it worse than Saw at this moment in time Han30 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomglazed Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Went on it today and the number of people that come off saying they feel a little tender afterwards is pretty consistent. On a slightly related topic, was there a particular mechanical or other reason that Vampire got new trains? I know Vekoma came in and did a load of work on the control system also. Just trying to think how viable Colossus getting new trains would be. Unfortunately, unless any new car design offers a drastically different experience I can't see them going through with the bother. Can only hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt10 Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Vampire had new trains as since arrow were defunct, new parts weren't being manufactured and the trains could not be easily maintained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Since Arrow went defunct after the Vampire refurb (due to issues with X at Six Flags who sued their asses off), I don't think that's entirely the case... Probably more to do with maintenance costs or potential issues, since it stood SBNO for an entire year... Merlin won't invest in new trains unless they can market it as something and get a ROI... Which is an ok idea for most businesses no doubt but not the best practice for a theme park... Even though happy guests are more likely to part with their cash on tat and food... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt10 Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 That was a refounded arrow though, not technically the same original company which done vampire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chessiekid Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Sorry to bump this topic but I have a really strange question and I was wondering if anyone here might be able to help me out? I just stumbled across this video on you tube somehow and noticed it uses part of the Colossus theme but instead has a guy rapping over it. Does anyone know if Thorpe Park commissioned the song originally, or is the version in this video the original? When I googled the lyrics nothing showed up which was quite strange and also leads me to believe that the guy raping must have used the Thorpe version as a sample. Is anyone able to clear this up for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holtjammy16 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Chessiekid said: Sorry to bump this topic but I have a really strange question and I was wondering if anyone here might be able to help me out? I just stumbled across this video on you tube somehow and noticed it uses part of the Colossus theme but instead has a guy rapping over it. Does anyone know if Thorpe Park commissioned the song originally, or is the version in this video the original? When I googled the lyrics nothing showed up which was quite strange and also leads me to believe that the guy raping must have used the Thorpe version as a sample. Is anyone able to clear this up for me? it's possible both whoever made that song and whoever made Colosus' theme tune used the same royalty free music/samples edit: actually I'm pretty sure that's exactly what happened listening to both versions, they both probs got the horn section as a sample (something like this) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted March 19, 2017 Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 Seems Colossus is still having problems with its lift this season, had an evac this morning and was closed till around 2ish. Opened again and another evac on the first train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchada04 Posted March 19, 2017 Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 It's got a new chain and gearbox so that might be causing some issues. I believe it's stopping where the chain usually speeds up so could be something with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenVig Posted March 19, 2017 Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 Surprised it wasn't picked up in testing dragon2000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobF Posted March 19, 2017 Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 It could well be weight testing wasnt completed it could easily be due to a full train vs a few water dummies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Yeah hopefully it's not weight issues like last season so they don't have to leave rows of seats empty again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMoo Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Agreed. Otherwise expect HORROR RIDE AT SURREY THEME PARK headlines come opening day! * Riders stuck for 30 minutes in pouring rain * Eye witnesses reported test dummies being sent round before the ride opened later then scheduled at 11am * Dave (19) said the experience meant "He weren't gonna go to theme parks no more" (sic) and "Surely if they are testing it with dummies it ain't safe" * THORPE PARK - home of "The Colossus" is owned by Merlin Entertainments who also operate Alton Towers, where the Smiler ride caused unprecedented injuries in June 2015 Easy this journalism lark... L7123456, TP-Fan, Theme Park Joseph and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP-Fan Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, MattyMoo said: Agreed. Otherwise expect HORROR RIDE AT SURREY THEME PARK headlines come opening day! * Riders stuck for 30 minutes in pouring rain * Eye witnesses reported test dummies being sent round before the ride opened later then scheduled at 11am * Dave (19) said the experience meant "He weren't gonna go to theme parks no more" (sic) and "Surely if they are testing it with dummies it ain't safe" * THORPE PARK - home of "The Colossus" is owned by Merlin Entertainments who also operate Alton Towers, where the Smiler ride caused unprecedented injuries in June 2015 Easy this journalism lark... Best thing I've read for ages! ConnorJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh3103 Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 3 hours ago, MattyMoo said: Agreed. Otherwise expect HORROR RIDE AT SURREY THEME PARK headlines come opening day! * Riders stuck for 30 minutes in pouring rain * Eye witnesses reported test dummies being sent round before the ride opened later then scheduled at 11am * Dave (19) said the experience meant "He weren't gonna go to theme parks no more" (sic) and "Surely if they are testing it with dummies it ain't safe" * THORPE PARK - home of "The Colossus" is owned by Merlin Entertainments who also operate Alton Towers, where the Smiler ride caused unprecedented injuries in June 2015 Easy this journalism lark... I love it ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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